1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:30,850 --> 00:00:34,520 (SLOW, MYSTICAL MUSIC) 4 00:00:47,850 --> 00:00:49,750 JOOST BAKKER: The most destructive thing 5 00:00:49,770 --> 00:00:51,560 we humans do is eat... 6 00:00:53,020 --> 00:00:54,690 ..which is madness. 7 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,540 And it's because we've got this stupid system 8 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,750 that doesn't respect and value waste. 9 00:01:02,770 --> 00:01:05,980 (MUSIC DRAMATISES) 10 00:01:06,270 --> 00:01:07,790 We've spent the last hundred years 11 00:01:07,810 --> 00:01:10,370 removing ourselves from our food system 12 00:01:10,390 --> 00:01:12,910 and I think we need to spend the next hundred years 13 00:01:12,940 --> 00:01:15,370 living in our food system like we've done 14 00:01:15,390 --> 00:01:17,390 for millions of years. 15 00:01:22,730 --> 00:01:23,540 The World Bank say 16 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,120 that between 30 and 40% of the 17 00:01:25,150 --> 00:01:27,370 food that's actually grown today 18 00:01:27,390 --> 00:01:29,100 is wasted. 19 00:01:31,690 --> 00:01:34,190 Nature doesn't have waste. 20 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:36,160 A tree that falls down in this forest, 21 00:01:36,190 --> 00:01:38,370 it actually creates all these resources 22 00:01:38,390 --> 00:01:41,560 for so many other species to get started again. 23 00:01:41,730 --> 00:01:45,230 It's a perfect example of a closed loop system. 24 00:01:45,390 --> 00:01:49,980 I don't see why a house should be any different to this. 25 00:01:50,850 --> 00:01:52,500 I've always had this dream that our homes 26 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,900 can be a place that provides us with everything that we need. 27 00:01:57,980 --> 00:02:00,580 Imagine if our houses grew our food. 28 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,150 Imagine our cities as ecosystems feeding themselves. 29 00:02:05,390 --> 00:02:07,790 Imagine if we could green our homes 30 00:02:07,810 --> 00:02:11,390 and every family could feed themselves. 31 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,980 (MARKER SCRIBBLING) 32 00:02:26,770 --> 00:02:29,750 It's an occupational hazard, picking these, 33 00:02:29,770 --> 00:02:31,650 with all the bees. 34 00:02:31,770 --> 00:02:34,060 Dad used to love these. 35 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:40,390 This is Sedum, it's a succulent actually. 36 00:02:40,690 --> 00:02:44,210 We are from a little place called Obdum, 37 00:02:44,230 --> 00:02:47,620 which is about 20 minutes north of Amsterdam, 38 00:02:47,650 --> 00:02:49,370 well known for growing tulips, 39 00:02:49,390 --> 00:02:51,370 and that's what my family did there, 40 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,000 my grandfather, my great grandfather, 41 00:02:54,020 --> 00:02:56,450 and it's really interesting that 42 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,730 my dad started doing it here. 43 00:03:01,060 --> 00:03:05,370 These flowers, I use them when they're green, 44 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,910 I use them at this stage. 45 00:03:06,940 --> 00:03:07,370 Obviously, 46 00:03:07,390 --> 00:03:09,080 they're at their best right now, 47 00:03:09,100 --> 00:03:11,080 but they're also really beautiful 48 00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:12,790 when they completely darken off. 49 00:03:12,810 --> 00:03:13,960 I still use them then. 50 00:03:13,980 --> 00:03:15,330 And I actually suspend them, 51 00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:19,060 so people walk underneath clouds of Sedum. 52 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,370 I've got this from my dad, 53 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,580 I personally don't believe in talking about doing stuff. 54 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,150 I'm a big believer in doing stuff. 55 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:41,540 When people see a physical, living, breathing example 56 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,040 of an idea, 57 00:03:42,060 --> 00:03:45,980 it's much more powerful than verbalising that idea. 58 00:03:46,810 --> 00:03:49,500 There's something very powerful about smelling it, 59 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,940 seeing it, hearing it, touching it. 60 00:03:54,350 --> 00:03:56,580 You walk away and it leaves you with something 61 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,730 and it kind of makes you want to change the way you live. 62 00:04:04,350 --> 00:04:06,000 (CAR RUMBLES) 63 00:04:06,020 --> 00:04:09,980 (RHYTHMIC DRUMMING) 64 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,500 I'm an artist and I understand that, if it's not desirable, 65 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,250 if it's not aesthetically pleasing, 66 00:04:22,270 --> 00:04:24,370 if people don't love it and don't want it, 67 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:26,790 it won't become an idea that's mainstream. 68 00:04:26,810 --> 00:04:31,350 So, I understand it's critical that it's appealing. 69 00:04:32,810 --> 00:04:36,210 Ten years ago, florists were not really into using natives 70 00:04:36,230 --> 00:04:39,290 and now, I think it's been really good 71 00:04:39,310 --> 00:04:41,910 to have, like, an outsider's perspective 72 00:04:41,940 --> 00:04:44,450 of how incredible and beautiful 73 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,960 these amazing plants really are. 74 00:04:46,980 --> 00:04:49,600 I think I need to put more water in that. 75 00:04:49,940 --> 00:04:51,410 Everything that we waste 76 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,080 in our society and in our culture today, 77 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:55,980 to me is a resource. 78 00:04:56,060 --> 00:04:58,370 My work has always been about utilising waste, 79 00:04:58,390 --> 00:05:01,330 and that led into doing interiors of restaurants 80 00:05:01,350 --> 00:05:02,330 and using wasted materials 81 00:05:02,350 --> 00:05:06,370 and ultimately doing much larger installations 82 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:07,910 again with wasted materials 83 00:05:07,940 --> 00:05:11,350 and it ultimately led to restaurants. 84 00:05:12,190 --> 00:05:14,710 At the end of 2012, I opened Silo, 85 00:05:14,730 --> 00:05:16,210 which was the world's first 86 00:05:16,230 --> 00:05:17,710 completely zero-waste restaurant. 87 00:05:17,730 --> 00:05:20,830 And it led to restaurants all over the world 88 00:05:20,850 --> 00:05:21,500 implementing change, 89 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,500 change that really saves an unbelievable amount of waste, 90 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,500 even from McDonald's through to some of the world's best restaurants. 91 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,980 (PULSATING POP TRACK PLAYS) 92 00:05:33,690 --> 00:05:34,120 (APPLAUSE) 93 00:05:34,150 --> 00:05:39,940 Imagine your house growing food on the roof, on the walls. 94 00:05:41,390 --> 00:05:43,370 JEREMY McLEOD: I think the thing about Joost 95 00:05:43,390 --> 00:05:46,370 is that he's so idealistic 96 00:05:46,390 --> 00:05:47,290 and he's so fearless 97 00:05:47,310 --> 00:05:50,500 and it's kind of like this, you know, crazy naivete, 98 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,040 you know, where he just says, here's the vision, 99 00:05:54,060 --> 00:05:57,660 and it's this massive, bold vision, 100 00:05:57,690 --> 00:06:00,690 and then he gets to work on it. 101 00:06:02,230 --> 00:06:07,210 JOOST: So, I wanna prove that we can live zero waste 102 00:06:07,230 --> 00:06:10,040 and, to achieve that, you need to solve waste 103 00:06:10,060 --> 00:06:13,400 where most of it is generated and that's our homes. 104 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,620 My goal is to build a house like no-one's ever seen before, 105 00:06:19,650 --> 00:06:22,040 a house that's inspired by nature, really, 106 00:06:22,060 --> 00:06:24,620 a house that doesn't generate any waste, 107 00:06:24,650 --> 00:06:28,160 is its own closed system. 108 00:06:28,190 --> 00:06:29,790 To me, the rules are really simple. 109 00:06:29,810 --> 00:06:33,660 If you can't recycle it or if it's toxic, we can't use it. 110 00:06:33,690 --> 00:06:37,750 And that rules out about 95% of building materials 111 00:06:37,770 --> 00:06:39,690 you can normally use. 112 00:06:39,810 --> 00:06:41,370 And at the end of the building's life, 113 00:06:41,390 --> 00:06:44,120 that the whole thing can be just be easily recycled, 114 00:06:44,150 --> 00:06:46,390 composted or biodegraded. 115 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,660 This design, this system, this building, 116 00:06:51,690 --> 00:06:52,830 I think it could be a place 117 00:06:52,850 --> 00:06:54,870 that provides us with everything 118 00:06:54,900 --> 00:06:57,900 that we need if we do it right. 119 00:06:58,390 --> 00:07:00,370 Let's change our urban areas, 120 00:07:00,390 --> 00:07:05,390 our cities, our houses, our buildings to food systems. 121 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,080 JEREMY: I think the incredible thing about Joost 122 00:07:10,100 --> 00:07:12,330 is he's a florist, not an architect. 123 00:07:12,350 --> 00:07:15,330 He thinks like an artist, not an architect. 124 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:17,960 And so he's not making architecture, 125 00:07:17,980 --> 00:07:21,390 he's building a system to live within. 126 00:07:22,390 --> 00:07:25,390 And he calls it future food systems. 127 00:07:38,770 --> 00:07:42,230 (TRUCK BEEPING) 128 00:07:45,390 --> 00:07:47,410 JOOST: There's so much waste generated by 129 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,310 actually getting a site prepared for a building. 130 00:07:52,390 --> 00:07:55,660 And there's so much energy and cost 131 00:07:55,690 --> 00:07:58,020 that's goes into the foundations. 132 00:07:58,150 --> 00:07:59,370 So, I started playing around with the idea of, 133 00:07:59,390 --> 00:08:03,080 what about if you build a house that doesn't need foundations, 134 00:08:03,100 --> 00:08:06,390 and you can plough that money into a rooftop garden. 135 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:09,210 JEREMY: The way that houses 136 00:08:09,230 --> 00:08:11,210 have always been built historically 137 00:08:11,230 --> 00:08:12,910 is that you put them on stumps 138 00:08:12,940 --> 00:08:14,960 or on a concrete slab on the ground. 139 00:08:14,980 --> 00:08:18,830 But, for every kilogram of concrete you make, 140 00:08:18,850 --> 00:08:20,410 you make a kilogram of carbon. 141 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,370 The incredible thing about the Greenhouse 142 00:08:22,390 --> 00:08:24,370 is that it doesn't use concrete footings. 143 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:27,750 Instead, it uses soil on the roof, 144 00:08:27,770 --> 00:08:30,390 to weigh the building down. 145 00:08:37,060 --> 00:08:41,250 This system can be built in a factory, taken to site, 146 00:08:41,270 --> 00:08:45,370 the soil can then be loaded on, and the building is there. 147 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,940 This is a great solution for a rapidly urbanising society. 148 00:08:57,390 --> 00:08:59,120 JOOST: From an engineering point of view, 149 00:08:59,150 --> 00:09:02,160 we can't start putting in windows or cladding it 150 00:09:02,190 --> 00:09:04,370 because the building becomes like a sail 151 00:09:04,390 --> 00:09:06,370 without the soil on the roof 152 00:09:06,390 --> 00:09:08,080 because it's part of the engineering. 153 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:12,190 That's why that garden needs to go on immediately. 154 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,980 (TRUCK RUMBLES) 155 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,370 How amazing is that view through there? 156 00:09:24,390 --> 00:09:26,940 You get to see the MCG and everything. 157 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:30,870 So, the soil is going on the roof. 158 00:09:30,900 --> 00:09:33,370 And... so today's the most exciting day 159 00:09:33,390 --> 00:09:37,190 of the whole project, pretty much, for me, anyway. 160 00:09:38,390 --> 00:09:40,370 And that's what we plan to garden. 161 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,390 It'll grow some amazing food. 162 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:48,580 As well, the black barrels are made from recycled plastic, 163 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,900 so I like using them. 164 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:07,290 So, this is a 44-gallon drum. 165 00:10:07,310 --> 00:10:10,080 So, I've got this thing about 44-gallon drums - 166 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:12,000 the last 100 years were about oil, 167 00:10:12,020 --> 00:10:13,450 the next 100 years are about soil. 168 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,270 So, I call them 44-gallon soil drums. 169 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,370 And people say to me all the time, 170 00:10:22,390 --> 00:10:25,290 how can you have black barrels in the middle of summer 171 00:10:25,310 --> 00:10:26,120 and everything grows so well? 172 00:10:26,150 --> 00:10:29,080 Because the plants constantly have access to water. 173 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:30,540 And so you don't lose nutrients 174 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:31,870 and you don't lose water, 175 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:34,560 so the ultimate zero-waste design. 176 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,560 (CHALK MARKS OFF) 177 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:44,040 You can see how there's a real science to this. 178 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:47,310 (JIGSAW WHIRRING) 179 00:10:47,940 --> 00:10:49,830 Please put this in your recycling. 180 00:10:49,850 --> 00:10:52,040 It's polypropylene, it gets recycled, 181 00:10:52,060 --> 00:10:54,960 and there's a huge shortage of it in Australia. 182 00:10:54,980 --> 00:10:56,650 This goes in like that. 183 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,370 Basically, force this in. 184 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,370 You've got to make sure that something goes all the way down 185 00:11:01,390 --> 00:11:06,310 to the bottom, so that it's always sitting in water. 186 00:11:06,390 --> 00:11:07,910 And the water will wick out, 187 00:11:07,940 --> 00:11:12,390 but it can't be synthetic because it won't wick. 188 00:11:20,190 --> 00:11:24,000 So if you want... let's say you're growing watercress, 189 00:11:24,020 --> 00:11:25,210 you have it all the way up there, 190 00:11:25,230 --> 00:11:26,250 you want the water as high as possible. 191 00:11:26,270 --> 00:11:29,330 And the water level doesn't stay like that all the time, 192 00:11:29,350 --> 00:11:30,250 it's just when you're watering 193 00:11:30,270 --> 00:11:33,400 and then the plants start pulling water out. 194 00:11:39,390 --> 00:11:42,120 And I love that, before we put any windows in 195 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:43,370 or any cladding on or anything, 196 00:11:43,390 --> 00:11:44,250 the first thing we do 197 00:11:44,270 --> 00:11:47,210 is put the soil on the roof and put the garden up. 198 00:11:47,230 --> 00:11:50,730 I dream that one day every house is built that way. 199 00:11:55,350 --> 00:11:57,600 - Yeah, that's good. - Yep, perfect. 200 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:03,620 You can't suddenly walk up the street 201 00:12:03,650 --> 00:12:05,330 and throw a little bit of rubbish in the bin 202 00:12:05,350 --> 00:12:07,710 because once you do that you compromise the whole idea, 203 00:12:07,730 --> 00:12:12,080 and so I think you've got to have a purist approach. 204 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:15,160 Because, once people see you compromise, 205 00:12:15,190 --> 00:12:16,160 then they compromise, 206 00:12:16,190 --> 00:12:19,390 and then suddenly it becomes a slippery slope. 207 00:12:23,390 --> 00:12:26,370 All transport companies want their pallets wrapped. 208 00:12:26,390 --> 00:12:28,350 Oh, I might go on this side. 209 00:12:28,390 --> 00:12:30,660 I hate wrap because you can't recycle it, 210 00:12:30,690 --> 00:12:33,150 it just ends up in the bin. 211 00:12:33,390 --> 00:12:37,370 And so someone told me not that long ago about a guy, 212 00:12:37,390 --> 00:12:38,160 who is a winemaker, 213 00:12:38,190 --> 00:12:40,370 he hated that his wine, his organic wines 214 00:12:40,390 --> 00:12:42,250 were getting wrapped in this plastic 215 00:12:42,270 --> 00:12:43,370 that just ended up in landfill. 216 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:48,080 And so he invented a plastic wrap made from food waste. 217 00:12:48,100 --> 00:12:50,330 So, we get to wrap this garden 218 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:55,060 in stuff that we can then compost which is really cool. 219 00:12:55,150 --> 00:12:59,370 We don't need to be generating any waste is my philosophy, 220 00:12:59,390 --> 00:13:03,660 so there's always an alternative, always a solution. 221 00:13:03,690 --> 00:13:05,370 No, I'd rather... No. 222 00:13:05,390 --> 00:13:08,370 But it starts with the soil, it's all about the soil. 223 00:13:08,390 --> 00:13:09,210 I know how good the soil is 224 00:13:09,230 --> 00:13:11,900 so I know stuff will grow really well. 225 00:13:21,770 --> 00:13:23,370 I've put really coarse material, 226 00:13:23,390 --> 00:13:25,290 but also really fine material, 227 00:13:25,310 --> 00:13:27,080 and I can put my hand into this, 228 00:13:27,100 --> 00:13:28,520 there's a scrub worm. 229 00:13:28,650 --> 00:13:32,830 These can go down up to two and a half, three metres deep. 230 00:13:32,850 --> 00:13:37,750 I actually reckon this is probably the most important 231 00:13:37,770 --> 00:13:39,370 living organism on earth. 232 00:13:39,390 --> 00:13:44,560 My dad used to say that lots of worms means happy people. 233 00:13:45,150 --> 00:13:47,290 I've been mucking around with soil for about 30 years, 234 00:13:47,310 --> 00:13:54,150 um, and just copying what's in the natural environment. 235 00:13:54,390 --> 00:13:58,080 I always try and have something from the ocean in it, 236 00:13:58,100 --> 00:14:01,250 so these are scallop shells that have been ground up 237 00:14:01,270 --> 00:14:07,390 and composted and, of course, worms, you can see here. 238 00:14:11,730 --> 00:14:13,730 Just a few, eh? 239 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:16,450 This is bintje, my favourite potato. 240 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,870 The most success I've had is 34 kilos of potatoes 241 00:14:21,900 --> 00:14:23,370 from one square metre. 242 00:14:23,390 --> 00:14:26,370 I's remarkable how much this will yield. 243 00:14:26,390 --> 00:14:29,500 And I love this because the soil's made from waste 244 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,390 and the barrels are made from waste. 245 00:14:33,940 --> 00:14:36,400 (AIRY MUSIC) 246 00:14:37,980 --> 00:14:38,710 You know, I think everybody 247 00:14:38,730 --> 00:14:40,370 should have vertical gardens in their house. 248 00:14:40,390 --> 00:14:43,290 I think everybody should be growing a little bit of food 249 00:14:43,310 --> 00:14:44,210 even if it's a square metre. 250 00:14:44,230 --> 00:14:47,940 And that's what I hope will become normal. 251 00:14:48,810 --> 00:14:51,370 Because, once you start planting something, 252 00:14:51,390 --> 00:14:52,370 and you grow something, 253 00:14:52,390 --> 00:14:57,370 you're connected to the outside world like never before 254 00:14:57,390 --> 00:14:58,370 because you start worrying 255 00:14:58,390 --> 00:15:00,600 about whether it's going to rain. 256 00:15:02,270 --> 00:15:02,910 Do I need to water that plant? 257 00:15:02,940 --> 00:15:06,900 Have we got rain coming tonight? I better harvest it. 258 00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:09,810 Time to plant some veggies. 259 00:15:11,390 --> 00:15:12,410 Suddenly, you're connected 260 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,370 and then that becomes the stepping stone. 261 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,480 (THUNDER RUMBLES) 262 00:15:18,390 --> 00:15:19,440 Awesome. 263 00:15:25,390 --> 00:15:28,390 (GENTLE MUSIC) 264 00:15:31,690 --> 00:15:32,370 Whatever this tree is, 265 00:15:32,390 --> 00:15:35,000 there's a deciduous tree here that's dropping leaves 266 00:15:35,020 --> 00:15:37,370 and it reminds me of my childhood in Holland. 267 00:15:37,390 --> 00:15:40,350 We must have had a similar tree growing. 268 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,370 What's so exciting about today 269 00:15:41,390 --> 00:15:43,410 is that everyone's holding a phone in their hands 270 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,870 and everyone can follow the project. 271 00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:47,450 Have a look at this one. 272 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,290 That bird sounds so cool, doesn't it? 273 00:15:49,310 --> 00:15:50,500 So, as frustrating as it is for us 274 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,540 to kind of be building while these lockdowns are going on, 275 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,370 people sitting at home, stuck at home were able to, 276 00:15:56,390 --> 00:15:57,370 through social media, 277 00:15:57,390 --> 00:16:00,410 follow the build, watch the wicking beds being made 278 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,540 and the soil getting made. 279 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,390 Saffron cap. 280 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:05,790 This is probably the one that's easiest 281 00:16:05,810 --> 00:16:09,650 for people to identify but it's also the most delicious. 282 00:16:09,770 --> 00:16:13,870 We needed to radically change everything before COVID 283 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:16,450 and I think that people are more open to it now 284 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,370 because they've realised that we can suddenly 285 00:16:19,390 --> 00:16:23,400 stop going to work, we can quickly change what we do. 286 00:16:24,390 --> 00:16:27,650 And that fills me with hope. 287 00:16:28,060 --> 00:16:30,770 This is a very, very good day. 288 00:16:37,060 --> 00:16:39,410 That's it, you've just picked the most perfect one. 289 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,830 Actually, I like it when they've got little... 290 00:16:41,850 --> 00:16:44,100 looks like an artwork. 291 00:16:49,020 --> 00:16:51,080 So, this is the south of the building, 292 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:54,400 that's why there's no windows, so there's no sun. 293 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,710 And, yeah, we've made a ramp so we can get disability access 294 00:16:58,730 --> 00:17:00,370 and all that sort of stuff like that, 295 00:17:00,390 --> 00:17:02,370 used complete waste for the ramp. 296 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,870 So, this is all form ply that's been 297 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:06,540 used many, many times by concreters. 298 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,370 You can see some of them might have been used 15 or 20 times. 299 00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:12,000 - Yeah. - We used that form ply... 300 00:17:12,020 --> 00:17:13,450 Getting things done on time 301 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,370 has proven to be impossible, constant lockdowns, 302 00:17:17,390 --> 00:17:19,790 and it's quite a stressful situation, 303 00:17:19,810 --> 00:17:21,040 especially because I've got two friends 304 00:17:21,060 --> 00:17:24,620 that have left their jobs ready to move into this place. 305 00:17:24,650 --> 00:17:27,000 - Yep, alright? - Yeah. 306 00:17:27,020 --> 00:17:28,960 Lean it in. Alright? 307 00:17:28,980 --> 00:17:30,580 And, you know, because of the lockdowns, 308 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,540 we weren't allowed to start early, either, you know, 309 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,160 there were very limited hours that we could work. 310 00:17:36,190 --> 00:17:38,160 And, then, of course, it just made it worse 311 00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:40,370 so the anxiety and the costs and the blowouts 312 00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:43,370 and, you know, all that sort of stuff. 313 00:17:43,390 --> 00:17:46,370 And, really, you know, there's only four of us 314 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,370 working on this most of the time. 315 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,000 So, the join on the one behind is here. 316 00:17:51,020 --> 00:17:51,540 - Oh, yeah. 317 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:57,150 And so luckily for us it's only a relatively small house. 318 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,710 JEREMY: Australian houses have been getting bigger 319 00:18:05,730 --> 00:18:06,960 and bigger and bigger, 320 00:18:06,980 --> 00:18:08,160 so, in the last hundred years, 321 00:18:08,190 --> 00:18:11,000 our houses have got four times bigger than they used to be. 322 00:18:11,020 --> 00:18:14,600 You know, these houses are over 200 square metres. 323 00:18:14,770 --> 00:18:17,830 Joost's Greenhouse is under 90 square metres, 324 00:18:17,850 --> 00:18:20,120 so it's less than half the size of that, 325 00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:24,040 and the single biggest carbon emitter on this planet 326 00:18:24,060 --> 00:18:26,620 is buildings, is the built environment. 327 00:18:26,650 --> 00:18:30,210 It gives us a carbon problem at construction, 328 00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:31,370 and it gives us a carbon problem 329 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,060 for, you know, the operational life of the building. 330 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,710 You know, it's time that we all just, uh, 331 00:18:38,730 --> 00:18:40,830 used a little less space and 332 00:18:40,850 --> 00:18:44,270 build a little bit more quality. 333 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,830 JOOST: This is the last straw. 334 00:18:53,850 --> 00:18:59,710 COLLEAGUE: This Joost at, what is it, a quarter past seven, 335 00:18:59,730 --> 00:19:03,810 more hay in his hair than there is hair. 336 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,870 I love this stuff. 337 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:07,160 (LAUGHTER) 338 00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:08,040 What can I say? 339 00:19:08,060 --> 00:19:11,520 Well, I'm a bit of a sucker for straw. 340 00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:14,120 All my past projects have used straw 341 00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:17,310 just bailed the way that farmers sell it. 342 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,370 But, in the new project, 343 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,690 I use a compressed panel that's made in Bendigo since 1952. 344 00:19:29,390 --> 00:19:33,410 This panel was very popular in the '60s and '70s 345 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,370 and then it became, like, this hippy product 346 00:19:37,390 --> 00:19:40,270 and people started designing it out. 347 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,210 And I'm trying to resurrect the product 348 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:44,250 and bring it back and make it more popular 349 00:19:44,270 --> 00:19:46,660 so that every building is made with it 350 00:19:46,690 --> 00:19:49,940 because it's really easily recycled. 351 00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:55,560 And it's completely made from waste. 352 00:20:01,190 --> 00:20:04,980 (UPLIFTING MUSIC) 353 00:20:18,020 --> 00:20:22,450 So, for every kilo of oats, rice, wheat, barley, 354 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,410 we produce a kilo of straw, 355 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,960 and there's a hundred million farmers 356 00:20:27,980 --> 00:20:30,190 that produce it every year. 357 00:20:30,810 --> 00:20:35,370 more than enough material to make all of our toilet paper, 358 00:20:35,390 --> 00:20:38,020 copy paper, cardboard. 359 00:20:40,900 --> 00:20:44,690 And yet we're cutting down trees for toilet paper. 360 00:20:44,810 --> 00:20:51,400 27,000 trees are cut down every day just to make toilet paper. 361 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:56,250 And at the same time farmers 362 00:20:56,270 --> 00:20:59,270 are burning straw to get rid of it. 363 00:21:03,150 --> 00:21:06,290 Private farmers are sitting on an untapped resource, 364 00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:07,540 in my opinion. 365 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,500 There's huge potential industry here 366 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,960 to use agricultural waste 367 00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:16,900 that could go into paper and particle board. 368 00:21:22,020 --> 00:21:24,960 We use straw on the walls, there's straw on the ceiling, 369 00:21:24,980 --> 00:21:27,750 so you get this beautifully insulated wall 370 00:21:27,770 --> 00:21:31,750 that is made with the material that's most wasted on earth 371 00:21:31,770 --> 00:21:34,960 and, best of all, when it's tight and compact, 372 00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:38,500 the straw in itself is very fire resistant 373 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,810 which makes it even more amazing. 374 00:21:43,980 --> 00:21:45,250 (JIGSAW WHIRRS) 375 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:47,410 And, of course, any waste can just be 376 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,850 either composted or biodegraded. 377 00:22:03,810 --> 00:22:05,440 - Is this barley? 378 00:22:05,850 --> 00:22:08,270 JOOST: Oats. - Oats. 379 00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:12,810 A bit late but they'll still be fine. 380 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,270 The most important element in soil is air. 381 00:22:19,690 --> 00:22:22,160 Soil life is no different to us, 382 00:22:22,190 --> 00:22:25,540 the number one thing that they need is air. 383 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,370 - Wow! 384 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:28,830 - You watch... - It looks so healthy! 385 00:22:28,850 --> 00:22:29,500 Once you've got air, 386 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,500 then all of the microflora and bacteria 387 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,540 can thrive. 388 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,370 And then the goal, the magic... 389 00:22:35,390 --> 00:22:40,540 And carbon, charcoal, is a permanent home for microflora. 390 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,710 This is biochar and I always mix this into the soil, 391 00:22:45,730 --> 00:22:47,580 this is carbon and it stays in the soil 392 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,960 for hundreds and hundreds of years, 393 00:22:49,980 --> 00:22:53,020 and just mix it all through. 394 00:23:10,730 --> 00:23:14,710 RUSSELL BURNETT: Biochar is highly porous. 395 00:23:14,730 --> 00:23:16,790 Its surface area is huge. 396 00:23:16,810 --> 00:23:21,370 If you've got a gram of just ordinary biochar 397 00:23:21,390 --> 00:23:22,040 from a woody material, 398 00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:26,100 it will have the surface area of a tennis court, it's huge. 399 00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:27,870 And, because it's so porous, 400 00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:32,100 it's like a housing complex for soil microbes. 401 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,120 We'll use anything 402 00:23:36,150 --> 00:23:40,960 that's basically a dry, organic material - wood chips, 403 00:23:40,980 --> 00:23:46,710 shells, nuts, grape marc, residue from the hemp industry, 404 00:23:46,730 --> 00:23:49,620 if it's a dry, considered a waste material, 405 00:23:49,650 --> 00:23:51,710 which you'd normally burn, shred it, 406 00:23:51,730 --> 00:23:55,370 put it through a continuous pyrolysis process like this. 407 00:23:55,390 --> 00:23:57,810 Beautiful, it's win-win. 408 00:23:59,390 --> 00:24:01,120 JOOST: What happens with biochar is 409 00:24:01,150 --> 00:24:02,370 you're burning without oxygen, 410 00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:05,390 so there's no smoke, there's no emissions. 411 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,370 If you burnt it in a fire, it would turn to ash, 412 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,410 and you'd lose it, but when you're turning it 413 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,770 into charcoal, it's a great way to store carbon. 414 00:24:15,980 --> 00:24:19,120 We know of charcoal that's thousands of years old 415 00:24:19,150 --> 00:24:21,370 from fires from 2 or 3 thousand years ago, 416 00:24:21,390 --> 00:24:25,060 so it stays in the soil for a long time. 417 00:24:27,390 --> 00:24:28,910 RUSSELL: When we make our biochar, 418 00:24:28,940 --> 00:24:31,830 we leave a few little goodies in there. 419 00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:34,000 We don't cook the crap out of it. 420 00:24:34,020 --> 00:24:37,120 It's got some of these pyroligneous compounds, 421 00:24:37,150 --> 00:24:43,440 these acids and foods for soil microbes and plants, as well. 422 00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:45,870 Once it goes in the soil and the biology sees 423 00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:51,160 this wonderful housing complex, bingo, they explode. 424 00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:51,870 - Wow. 425 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:54,730 - There you go. - Yeah. 426 00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:57,330 RUSSELL: Because it's based around this beautiful 427 00:24:57,350 --> 00:25:02,330 complex fixed carbon matrix, it's like compost for life. 428 00:25:02,350 --> 00:25:06,830 You get the same wonderful effect you get from compost 429 00:25:06,850 --> 00:25:10,850 but it's never-ending and it just gets better. 430 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:19,830 PHOTOGRAPHER: Five, four, three, two, one. 431 00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:22,370 JOOST: Welcome to our first livestream, 432 00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:24,000 FutureFoodSystem livestream. 433 00:25:24,020 --> 00:25:26,040 I'm really excited to have Jeremy here, 434 00:25:26,060 --> 00:25:29,080 who's a real architect, unlike me, 435 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:31,160 and we're going to take you through 436 00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:31,910 all the different elements 437 00:25:31,940 --> 00:25:34,370 that have made this building what it is today. 438 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,210 We've got a tiny little roof up the top, 439 00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:39,370 which is... I've calculated is enough for drinking water 440 00:25:39,390 --> 00:25:42,000 for a year, so all the water off the solar panels 441 00:25:42,020 --> 00:25:44,370 on the roof will be used for drinking and cooking 442 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,290 and that sort of thing 443 00:25:45,310 --> 00:25:46,870 and that's what this stainless steel tank is for. 444 00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:49,910 JEREMY: So, it seems like your whole frame is all steel, 445 00:25:49,940 --> 00:25:54,290 no concrete,so I guess the goal is at the end of all this, Joost, 446 00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:56,830 that you can recycle the entire building, 447 00:25:56,850 --> 00:25:58,160 the whole frame, everything. 448 00:25:58,190 --> 00:25:58,960 - Yep. - Yep. Zero waste. 449 00:25:58,980 --> 00:26:01,370 JOOST: Well, as you know, I'm obsessed with zero waste, 450 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,160 so, if you can't recycle it, I don't want it. 451 00:26:04,190 --> 00:26:05,390 - Yeah. 452 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,160 This building, what most people say when they walk in, 453 00:26:08,190 --> 00:26:10,910 they go, "It doesn't smell like a house at all." 454 00:26:10,940 --> 00:26:14,250 And that's because we haven't used any glues, resins, 455 00:26:14,270 --> 00:26:17,500 coatings, paints, any synthetic materials, 456 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,450 it's just all natural materials. 457 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,910 JEREMY: It smells like Apollo Bay, 458 00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:21,910 that's what it smells like. 459 00:26:21,940 --> 00:26:23,370 The cypress macrocarpa. 460 00:26:23,390 --> 00:26:25,000 JOOST: Well, I'm really proud of the fact 461 00:26:25,020 --> 00:26:28,450 that there's not one stick of FSC timber in this building, 462 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,870 so everything's come from a farm. 463 00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:31,870 So, FSC, 464 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:34,370 it's Forest Stewardship Council. 465 00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:36,000 You'll find it on copy paper, 466 00:26:36,020 --> 00:26:41,020 toilet paper, on everything that's made from wood chips. 467 00:26:42,850 --> 00:26:44,370 It's a body that was set up 468 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,120 to give us confidence in knowing 469 00:26:46,150 --> 00:26:48,390 that it's sustainable timber. 470 00:26:55,390 --> 00:27:00,370 20 years ago, Jenny, my wife, and I went into the Amazon, 471 00:27:00,390 --> 00:27:02,870 and, flying over the Amazon, 472 00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:06,370 we saw the clearing and the logging that was going on, 473 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:07,410 which was so disappointing 474 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,660 because we went deep into the Amazon 475 00:27:08,690 --> 00:27:12,270 and we saw how diverse and beautiful it was. 476 00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:14,960 I noticed a place that was cutting timber 477 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:17,330 and it was obvious that the timber came from 478 00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:19,000 an old-growth forest, 479 00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:24,370 and every piece of timber had an FSC stamp on it. 480 00:27:24,390 --> 00:27:26,410 And that made me think, "Hang on, 481 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,250 "isn't that supposed to be sustainable timber, 482 00:27:28,270 --> 00:27:32,480 "isn't that supposed to be coming from a non-wild source?" 483 00:27:32,850 --> 00:27:38,390 So, I can't support wild forest getting turned into FSC timber. 484 00:27:38,730 --> 00:27:42,020 (TENSE MUSIC) 485 00:27:43,390 --> 00:27:46,210 Everyone talks about monoculture forest, 486 00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:48,000 plantation timber. 487 00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:50,370 It's clearly a beautiful setting 488 00:27:50,390 --> 00:27:55,600 but this is possibly the worst form of locking up land. 489 00:27:55,940 --> 00:27:58,330 This is the most profitable form of forestry, 490 00:27:58,350 --> 00:28:02,370 planting the same species the same distance apart, 491 00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:04,370 all the same age, en masse. 492 00:28:04,390 --> 00:28:07,080 What it does is it basically wipes out 493 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,410 any chance of competition, they grow really quickly, 494 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,370 they're really uniform, 495 00:28:11,390 --> 00:28:13,370 they're all planted the same distance apart, 496 00:28:13,390 --> 00:28:16,710 they're all the same age and there's no chance 497 00:28:16,730 --> 00:28:17,410 for an understory. 498 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,580 You can see there's nothing growing underneath here. 499 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,160 There's no plants, there's no wildlife, there's no insects, 500 00:28:24,190 --> 00:28:27,600 there's no birds, there's nothing that lives in this monoculture. 501 00:28:33,150 --> 00:28:36,060 (BIRD CALLS) 502 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,290 We've walked through an old-growth forest 503 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:42,620 and the biodiversity just under your feet is incredible. 504 00:28:42,650 --> 00:28:44,750 The amount of different species 505 00:28:44,770 --> 00:28:47,770 of fungus and ferns and grasses. 506 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:51,370 None of that exists here. 507 00:28:51,390 --> 00:28:52,660 In my eyes, this is dead. 508 00:28:52,690 --> 00:28:55,710 There's no life here and, sadly, 509 00:28:55,730 --> 00:29:00,310 this is the most common form of forestry globally. 510 00:29:00,390 --> 00:29:01,750 We don't need to be doing this, 511 00:29:01,770 --> 00:29:04,400 we could be getting our timber from farmers. 512 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,290 FARMER: That... I planted that tree, this thing here. 513 00:29:09,310 --> 00:29:13,370 I've harvested it, it's all in furniture. 514 00:29:13,390 --> 00:29:16,370 That was only 25 years old. 515 00:29:16,390 --> 00:29:19,660 JOOST: A lot of people have heard the term agroforestry, 516 00:29:19,690 --> 00:29:22,660 and that basically means that farmers, 517 00:29:22,690 --> 00:29:24,620 who normally farm sheep or 518 00:29:24,650 --> 00:29:27,370 grain or other crops, plant trees. 519 00:29:27,390 --> 00:29:29,750 And those trees are actually planted for harvesting 520 00:29:29,770 --> 00:29:33,290 but those trees also provide shade and wind protection 521 00:29:33,310 --> 00:29:33,710 for livestock 522 00:29:33,730 --> 00:29:36,370 or they'll stop erosion in waterways, 523 00:29:36,390 --> 00:29:38,580 and agroforestry is about planting trees 524 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,160 to stop that erosion but then, also, ultimately, for profit 525 00:29:42,190 --> 00:29:45,400 so that you do get to harvest those trees. 526 00:29:45,850 --> 00:29:50,120 It's estimated that most farms have between 15-20% 527 00:29:50,150 --> 00:29:52,120 of their land that's unproductive 528 00:29:52,150 --> 00:29:53,540 and is able to have trees. 529 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,370 FARMER: This is what we got out of it. 530 00:29:55,390 --> 00:29:58,160 You can see the colour of the timber, beautiful. 531 00:29:58,190 --> 00:30:00,750 JOOST: I believe that we need to support farmers 532 00:30:00,770 --> 00:30:04,370 in planting trees but don't just pay them to plant trees, 533 00:30:04,390 --> 00:30:08,250 we need to pay them ongoing to maintain that tree 534 00:30:08,270 --> 00:30:10,160 so that, over the next 10 years, 535 00:30:10,190 --> 00:30:13,400 we build a really sustainable timber industry. 536 00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:17,370 We've got a huge land mass and we've got the potential 537 00:30:17,390 --> 00:30:18,580 to grow billions of trees 538 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,410 and create habitat and restore the environment 539 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,660 at the same time. 540 00:30:22,690 --> 00:30:24,730 So, it's a win-win. 541 00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:32,160 Every single bit of timber has come from a farm. 542 00:30:32,190 --> 00:30:35,270 Nothing has come from a monoculture. 543 00:30:38,690 --> 00:30:42,330 Hey, Andrew, the kitchen's too big, mate. 544 00:30:42,350 --> 00:30:43,600 - Really? 545 00:30:44,390 --> 00:30:46,160 Nah, it's unreal. 546 00:30:46,190 --> 00:30:48,230 Unreal. 547 00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:53,370 Everything was really, I suppose, a lot more considered 548 00:30:53,390 --> 00:30:57,210 and it probably wasn't as rough. 549 00:30:57,230 --> 00:31:01,120 62 plus 70. So, that'll be fine... 550 00:31:01,150 --> 00:31:04,370 Like, all my other work was made from recycled materials 551 00:31:04,390 --> 00:31:08,370 so you'd bang, you know, sheets of ply from a packing crate 552 00:31:08,390 --> 00:31:09,330 from caterpillar on the wall 553 00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:12,370 or, you know, everything was made from recycled materials. 554 00:31:12,390 --> 00:31:13,250 This is the first project 555 00:31:13,270 --> 00:31:15,290 where everything is made from new materials. 556 00:31:15,310 --> 00:31:18,790 Because I wanted it to be an idea 557 00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:21,390 that was available to the masses. 558 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,290 So, my approach was make it from materials 559 00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:27,330 that are ubiquitous, anyone can access, 560 00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:29,290 anywhere in the world, 561 00:31:29,310 --> 00:31:31,160 but create a paradigm shift, 562 00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:33,370 you know, the whole using straw, 563 00:31:33,390 --> 00:31:36,250 not using PVC, not using toxic glues, 564 00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:38,390 not using monoculture timber. 565 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,250 - So I need a table that's... - A long bench? 566 00:31:42,270 --> 00:31:46,370 And because the projects that I do are open source, 567 00:31:46,390 --> 00:31:48,370 it makes it very easy to collaborate 568 00:31:48,390 --> 00:31:50,160 and people feel really comfortable 569 00:31:50,190 --> 00:31:51,710 putting their ideas forward. 570 00:31:51,730 --> 00:31:52,660 - It all works. 571 00:31:52,690 --> 00:31:53,750 - At least you can just put a 572 00:31:53,770 --> 00:31:55,210 few other timber chopping boards 573 00:31:55,230 --> 00:31:59,370 on that and use it as a... And that's always been my approach and so it becomes 574 00:31:59,390 --> 00:32:03,370 like this creative project where it constantly evolves. 575 00:32:03,390 --> 00:32:06,730 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 576 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,870 MATT STONE: Yeah, it's all very well 577 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:13,250 to talk about these sort of things, 578 00:32:13,270 --> 00:32:15,790 but, if you can't use the produce that we're talking 579 00:32:15,810 --> 00:32:18,830 about growing sustainably, producing sustainably, 580 00:32:18,850 --> 00:32:21,450 it sort of doesn't really back up the values 581 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,370 that we try to spread, 582 00:32:22,390 --> 00:32:26,370 so I think it's important to practice what we preach. 583 00:32:26,390 --> 00:32:29,620 I've known Joost for at least 10 years 584 00:32:29,650 --> 00:32:32,370 since we did the Greenhouse project in Perth, 585 00:32:32,390 --> 00:32:35,870 and every restaurant-based installation he's done 586 00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:39,500 since then I've been the foolish guy to help execute it. 587 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,540 Which has been a really interesting journey 588 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,370 and through that time, 589 00:32:42,390 --> 00:32:44,790 I think there's been a lot of learnings, 590 00:32:44,810 --> 00:32:47,390 a lot of trial and error. 591 00:32:50,390 --> 00:32:53,370 JO: I like the challenge to find something new 592 00:32:53,390 --> 00:32:55,370 and, even though we're in the world 593 00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:56,370 of hospitality and cooking, 594 00:32:56,390 --> 00:32:58,710 and that's what we do on a daily basis, 595 00:32:58,730 --> 00:33:00,790 I think we've come to a time, 596 00:33:00,810 --> 00:33:02,540 like, a realisation for everyone 597 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,350 that something has to change. 598 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:11,500 MATT: We're leaving the restaurant world 599 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,540 for a little bit, I generally love it, 600 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,710 so I'll be back at some stage, 601 00:33:14,730 --> 00:33:16,080 but we're just gonna build this house, 602 00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:19,620 getting to know how it's all come together, 603 00:33:19,650 --> 00:33:20,830 troubleshooting as we go, 604 00:33:20,850 --> 00:33:23,330 then grow some food, then move in 605 00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:25,370 and just make a modern urban cuisine 606 00:33:25,390 --> 00:33:26,370 out of food that's grown on a 607 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,400 house in the middle of the city. 608 00:33:30,650 --> 00:33:31,370 JO: I think living in it 609 00:33:31,390 --> 00:33:34,580 and really figuring out how to get it to work properly 610 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,410 for people is important 611 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,390 and we're interested in learning, as well. 612 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,910 MATT: We're taking, you know, 613 00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:44,540 near 20 years of culinary experience 614 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,960 working across Australia and around the world 615 00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:49,370 into this tiny, little, unique new concept. 616 00:33:49,390 --> 00:33:52,080 It's not very often you get that opportunity 617 00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:53,040 as a chef to do something 618 00:33:53,060 --> 00:33:55,520 that's truly new and truly unique. 619 00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:58,330 If we were asked what our dream situation would be 620 00:33:58,350 --> 00:34:02,370 in our careers, this is pretty much it, it's exciting, 621 00:34:02,390 --> 00:34:03,450 it's new, it's got meaning 622 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,620 and it's going to be delicious, you know, 623 00:34:05,650 --> 00:34:06,540 I'm really confident we're 624 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,370 gonna create some delicious food 625 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,620 that people will go, "Wow," full of flavour and delicious, 626 00:34:10,650 --> 00:34:12,790 and it came from here, this tiny little box 627 00:34:12,810 --> 00:34:14,620 in the middle of, you know, Federation Square, 628 00:34:14,650 --> 00:34:17,410 like, that's just so exciting, that's so cool. 629 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,710 - Alright. We'll... 630 00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:22,650 We might just move this one. 631 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,960 (LIVELY MUSIC) 632 00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:31,960 JOOST: So, we've got this insane system 633 00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:34,410 that harvests fish out of the ocean, grinds them up, 634 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,450 pelletises them and then sends them all around the world 635 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,900 to fish farms. 636 00:34:39,730 --> 00:34:42,580 That to me is beyond belief. 637 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,660 So, I'm a big believer that our urban environment 638 00:34:45,690 --> 00:34:49,940 can easily provide us with more than enough fish. 639 00:34:51,650 --> 00:34:52,370 So, a city like Melbourne, 640 00:34:52,390 --> 00:34:55,830 I believe, could have over a million micro aquaponic systems 641 00:34:55,850 --> 00:34:58,080 producing more fish than we can possibly eat. 642 00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:00,370 - Beautiful-looking fish, aren't they? 643 00:35:00,390 --> 00:35:00,830 - Yeah. 644 00:35:00,850 --> 00:35:03,190 - Oh, they look so happy. - Yeah. 645 00:35:03,390 --> 00:35:07,210 So, that's how it is, have a look underneath there. 646 00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:09,440 Beautiful blue yabbies. 647 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,620 The way we've set it up, 648 00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:13,370 we've added another element which is yabbies, 649 00:35:13,390 --> 00:35:14,960 which sit in a separate tank 650 00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:16,370 because the fish and the yabbies 651 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,390 will often eat each other, so we've got them separated. 652 00:35:22,810 --> 00:35:23,790 JO: You know when they came in, 653 00:35:23,810 --> 00:35:27,440 and one had its arm, like, its claw missing? 654 00:35:27,940 --> 00:35:29,120 Do they become territorial? 655 00:35:29,150 --> 00:35:31,980 - They do, yeah, they're really territorial. 656 00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:36,000 JO: I didn't expect to learn as much as I have 657 00:35:36,020 --> 00:35:36,580 around aquaponics. 658 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,120 It's something that Matt and I have done before 659 00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:41,830 but this was a lot bigger. 660 00:35:41,850 --> 00:35:45,040 So, with this one, right, in here, 661 00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:47,910 so this is called an auto siphon, 662 00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:51,210 so what it does is... 663 00:35:51,230 --> 00:35:53,750 Matt Stone, Matt Stone, you should listen to this. 664 00:35:53,770 --> 00:35:55,160 MATT: Yeah. (CHUCKLES) 665 00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:55,710 - And that air... 666 00:35:55,730 --> 00:35:59,370 JOOST: Jo, she's a sponge and, like, she doesn't sleep. 667 00:35:59,390 --> 00:36:03,250 She just will Google stuff, research stuff, buys books 668 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:06,370 and then, within a very short time, she knows more about it 669 00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:10,750 than I do. It's awesome, you know, and that's a real joy 670 00:36:10,770 --> 00:36:12,450 when you're working with someone like that, 671 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,000 who's so passionate about it. 672 00:36:14,020 --> 00:36:17,190 JO: I love when it's something so simple. 673 00:36:17,390 --> 00:36:23,000 Yeah, so basically fish poo with turn into plant food. 674 00:36:23,020 --> 00:36:27,290 So, this bit of rock, compared to a bit of bluestone 675 00:36:27,310 --> 00:36:28,580 or whatever that you would see, 676 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,620 this has got, like, ten times the surface area. 677 00:36:30,650 --> 00:36:33,540 Because it's got all those little nooks and crannies, 678 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,540 those little holes, so the bacteria live in there 679 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,810 and they convert the ammonia into plant food. 680 00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:46,850 (MARKER SCRIBBLING) 681 00:37:09,390 --> 00:37:12,370 All those little holes are full of bacteria. 682 00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:16,600 - So it's full of life. - Correct, yep, exactly. 683 00:37:16,810 --> 00:37:18,290 It's just living like the soil. 684 00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:20,710 JO: Isn't it amazing? Like, it's always the same concept. 685 00:37:20,730 --> 00:37:24,540 No matter if it's, like, a wicking bed or soil or... 686 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,270 - Yeah, yeah. 687 00:37:26,770 --> 00:37:27,410 Yeah, it's really cool. 688 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,580 JOOST: The aquaponic system is really mimicking nature. 689 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,120 The fish generate waste. 690 00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:36,870 That waste gets fed to the plants, 691 00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:38,750 and then it also filters the water 692 00:37:38,770 --> 00:37:39,410 and cleans it out again. 693 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,450 That's why the plants in an aquaponic system look so lush 694 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,730 and green, because the fish thrive and make that system thrive. 695 00:37:48,850 --> 00:37:51,830 But we can't have a million micro aquaponic systems 696 00:37:51,850 --> 00:37:55,370 in Melbourne if we're reliant on ocean-harvested fish 697 00:37:55,390 --> 00:37:56,850 to feed them. 698 00:37:57,390 --> 00:37:58,370 We met a marine biologist 699 00:37:58,390 --> 00:38:03,710 who had done a study on fish food and she just said to me, 700 00:38:03,730 --> 00:38:04,620 "I don't know if you realise 701 00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:08,080 "but worms are the most perfect food for fish, 702 00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:10,790 "they contain everything a fish needs to thrive." 703 00:38:10,810 --> 00:38:12,660 And so that was a game-changer, I just went, 704 00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:16,370 well, that makes so much sense, we just put our organic waste 705 00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:18,790 that we have left over at the end, feed it to worms, 706 00:38:18,810 --> 00:38:21,500 and then we harvest the worms and feed them to the fish. 707 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,660 It's the ultimate closed system. 708 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:26,730 (WATER CASCADING) 709 00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:35,870 JO: I was really looking 710 00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:37,620 forward to just launching into it, 711 00:38:37,650 --> 00:38:40,960 like, moving in, cooking, and Joost kept saying, 712 00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:44,370 "We're two weeks away, we're two weeks away moving in," 713 00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:45,830 and then it's not. 714 00:38:45,850 --> 00:38:52,390 We've got beans, we've got zucchini, rocket. 715 00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:55,540 Many, many oats. 716 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,620 We already had started harvesting beans 717 00:38:57,650 --> 00:39:00,540 because the garden was kinda producing food 718 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,370 before the house was finished. 719 00:39:01,390 --> 00:39:05,370 So it's kind of frustrating, we wanted to use that stuff. 720 00:39:05,390 --> 00:39:06,620 (JO AND MATT LAUGH) 721 00:39:06,650 --> 00:39:08,790 So, you know, all these exciting things 722 00:39:08,810 --> 00:39:10,750 you just want to take advantage of, 723 00:39:10,770 --> 00:39:15,230 but it's not finished to be able to do it. 724 00:39:18,730 --> 00:39:21,710 Everything is just Joost pioneering 725 00:39:21,730 --> 00:39:23,370 and trying to do things the correct way 726 00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:27,080 and, like, who knew that doing the correct thing 727 00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:29,350 would actually be so difficult? 728 00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:31,870 MATT: It was just frustrating 729 00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:35,620 because we just can't get in, so we just want to get rolling 730 00:39:35,650 --> 00:39:37,910 and get cooking and work with the space 731 00:39:37,940 --> 00:39:43,120 because its's a very intimate, small, unique space to work in 732 00:39:43,150 --> 00:39:45,830 so, after cooking in large kitchens 733 00:39:45,850 --> 00:39:47,370 with a large team for so many years, 734 00:39:47,390 --> 00:39:51,850 to adapt what you think might work and might not work. 735 00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:57,370 JO: I love this. 736 00:39:57,390 --> 00:40:00,160 I know, it's insane, isn't it? 737 00:40:00,190 --> 00:40:01,370 JOOST: Matt and Jo have left their jobs 738 00:40:01,390 --> 00:40:04,290 so they're really reliant on this project getting finished 739 00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:07,210 and we are now at least eight weeks behind, 740 00:40:07,230 --> 00:40:09,620 and so we've decided have it as a building site, 741 00:40:09,650 --> 00:40:13,020 get some people through, have our first event. 742 00:40:15,770 --> 00:40:16,330 MATT: Sick. 743 00:40:16,350 --> 00:40:18,370 WOMAN: Today still doesn't quite feel real. 744 00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:20,160 MATT: I feel nervous for no reason, 745 00:40:20,190 --> 00:40:21,160 like, I'm not cooking or anything, 746 00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:23,370 we're just using the space, but it's the first time... 747 00:40:23,390 --> 00:40:25,250 I mean, we've had friends through and stuff 748 00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:25,910 but it's the first time, 749 00:40:25,940 --> 00:40:28,710 like, hospo crew are going to see it and come through. 750 00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:30,660 It's obviously nowhere near finished. 751 00:40:30,690 --> 00:40:36,370 And, like, we're funding it all so we need to make money. 752 00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:37,870 Like, if we're doing it, you know... 753 00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:40,290 It's the first time I haven't had a full-time job 754 00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:42,390 in a long time, it's scary. 755 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,060 We'll have power in five minutes. 756 00:40:45,350 --> 00:40:48,830 - We were, like, fully planning to be finished and built... 757 00:40:48,850 --> 00:40:49,500 - What were you doing? 758 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,580 - Well, we couldn't have any builders here, 759 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,830 that was the problem, and all of our supplies took forever 760 00:40:53,850 --> 00:40:56,370 because no-one was working and it's just blown out, 761 00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:59,000 like, it should've been finished ages, 762 00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:00,390 like, months ago. 763 00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:09,160 JOOST: I'm still hoping to achieve being open 764 00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:11,370 by the end of this year but 765 00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:15,230 it's a crazy situation but yeah. 766 00:41:32,730 --> 00:41:35,710 One of the things that I love the most about the building 767 00:41:35,730 --> 00:41:38,040 is that you walk in and you can smell it, 768 00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:39,960 it's a combination of the plants growing, 769 00:41:39,980 --> 00:41:45,000 the water trickling and the fish are at the very top 770 00:41:45,020 --> 00:41:48,250 and you could just smell that ecosystem coming down 771 00:41:48,270 --> 00:41:50,750 which is very reminiscent of walking into a forest 772 00:41:50,770 --> 00:41:53,060 and walking along a creek. 773 00:41:55,230 --> 00:41:57,830 JO: Our solar panels weren't connected at the time 774 00:41:57,850 --> 00:42:02,390 and power was shorting out quite often. 775 00:42:03,850 --> 00:42:05,250 We thought we were on top of everything, 776 00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:07,370 and we weren't staying here, there was no bed. 777 00:42:07,390 --> 00:42:08,450 The bedrooms weren't even finished. 778 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,370 So, the fish looked like they would be OK, 779 00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:15,390 the water was pumping again and we went home. 780 00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:18,910 I walked in and I could smell 781 00:42:18,940 --> 00:42:21,040 there was something out of balance, it wasn't right, 782 00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:24,980 so I ran upstairs and I saw that some fish had died. 783 00:42:27,390 --> 00:42:28,370 JO: It was very emotional, 784 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,160 and I felt very riddled with guilt that we had introduced 785 00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:38,790 animals into this home and we'd killed them for no reason. 786 00:42:38,810 --> 00:42:40,830 And I guess part of this 787 00:42:40,850 --> 00:42:43,790 project is to share those troubles 788 00:42:43,810 --> 00:42:48,400 but we weren't living here so I don't know if we were ready. 789 00:42:51,390 --> 00:42:55,330 I was very hesitant to bring back fish so we decided 790 00:42:55,350 --> 00:42:58,370 that we wouldn't do anything for a couple of weeks 791 00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:59,040 and then Joost was like, 792 00:42:59,060 --> 00:43:02,060 no, we've just gotta get fish back in here. 793 00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:05,960 JOOST: It just shows that that ecosystem 794 00:43:05,980 --> 00:43:07,000 is reliant on human tenants 795 00:43:07,020 --> 00:43:10,830 as much as nature is reliant on all the different elements 796 00:43:10,850 --> 00:43:12,520 that make that work. 797 00:43:19,230 --> 00:43:20,370 JEREMY: So this is your battery wall? 798 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:23,370 JOOST: Batteries are a disaster when it comes to recycling, 799 00:43:23,390 --> 00:43:24,250 they're difficult to recycle, 800 00:43:24,270 --> 00:43:26,250 so I've just been researching and researching 801 00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:29,520 and then I came across nickel ion batteries. 802 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,870 - So, OK, I've bought these in a scrap metal yard, 803 00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:41,910 a dollar apiece sort of thing, 804 00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:46,500 brought them home, my father used to do a bit of solar panel 805 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,450 installation, he didn't think they would suit a solar panel, 806 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,450 so I never put solar panels in until after he'd died 807 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,120 and then after he'd died, I thought, well, 808 00:43:57,150 --> 00:43:59,210 I just started doing my own homework 809 00:43:59,230 --> 00:44:01,410 and couldn't see why they wouldn't work, 810 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,370 so I bought a panel. 811 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,370 - Yeah. And it's worked for you? 812 00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:07,290 - It worked perfectly so I thought, right, 813 00:44:07,310 --> 00:44:09,250 so I just started buying more. 814 00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:09,960 - Wow. 815 00:44:09,980 --> 00:44:11,250 - And they were fitted to 816 00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:13,080 submarines during the Second World War. 817 00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:15,330 I believe they were incredibly expensive at the time 818 00:44:15,350 --> 00:44:18,370 and that's why no-one else could do anything with them 819 00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:21,580 as far as alternative power goes. 820 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,540 JOOST: Love it, it's awesome. 821 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,160 I just can't believe that these batteries 822 00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:28,660 are from World War 2 and you're still using them today. 823 00:44:28,690 --> 00:44:29,450 - Oh, yes. 824 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,370 - Oh, I reckon it's a game-changer. 825 00:44:31,390 --> 00:44:33,370 - They're very rough and crude looking. 826 00:44:33,390 --> 00:44:36,250 This is all salt building up around the hinges, 827 00:44:36,270 --> 00:44:36,960 - Yeah. 828 00:44:36,980 --> 00:44:39,540 - See, there's one that's very stiff. 829 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,390 - Yeah. 830 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,080 They've been like that for 30 years and it doesn't matter. 831 00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:45,370 - That is insane. - Yes. 832 00:44:45,390 --> 00:44:47,330 - And still functioning the way 833 00:44:47,350 --> 00:44:48,960 that they were originally designed. 834 00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:50,370 JOOST: The thing that inspires me 835 00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:53,370 and excites me is this constant connection 836 00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:54,910 with brilliant people. 837 00:44:54,940 --> 00:44:56,370 - It's minimalist. - Yeah. 838 00:44:56,390 --> 00:45:00,370 And that's what projects like this have always done. 839 00:45:00,390 --> 00:45:02,120 - They're magnets. - Mm. 840 00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:03,370 You know, I didn't... 841 00:45:03,390 --> 00:45:06,000 Most of the crazy ideas just come about 842 00:45:06,020 --> 00:45:07,250 because you're just a magnet 843 00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:08,370 for a whole bunch of crazy people. 844 00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:11,330 And then you're just like, "why don't we do it that way?" 845 00:45:11,350 --> 00:45:13,370 This battery here is 100 years old 846 00:45:13,390 --> 00:45:17,660 and still works, as good as the day that it was made. 847 00:45:17,690 --> 00:45:19,620 This is a battery that can be recycled 848 00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:21,080 but it probably never will be. 849 00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:22,410 Like, my grandchildren will have 850 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,450 these batteries in their houses. 851 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,370 JEREMY: Incredible. 852 00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:27,620 And so tell us how you charge these, 853 00:45:27,650 --> 00:45:28,450 like, have you got solar? 854 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,080 - Yeah, just solar, so South Australian-made solar panels. 855 00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:33,330 - So Australian-made solar. 856 00:45:33,350 --> 00:45:35,750 JEREMY: So, we've got climate change, 857 00:45:35,770 --> 00:45:37,370 we've got a warming planet, 858 00:45:37,390 --> 00:45:40,370 we've also got an urbanising planet. 859 00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:42,210 The big thing is this thing called 860 00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:43,370 the urban heat island effect. 861 00:45:43,390 --> 00:45:47,250 And what that means is that, when you have lots of asphalt, 862 00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:50,120 which is black, lots of concrete, 863 00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:52,370 and then the sun is beating down on that, 864 00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:56,370 it absorbs that heat and it retains the heat. 865 00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:59,370 And so, for Joost, basically, 866 00:45:59,390 --> 00:46:03,250 instead of having a black roof which absorbs heat, 867 00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:04,660 he's got solar panels, 868 00:46:04,690 --> 00:46:07,500 which take the sun and converts it to electricity, 869 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,750 and then he's got plants, and plants help cool the house 870 00:46:11,770 --> 00:46:15,660 and plants absorb the sun and, through photosynthesis, 871 00:46:15,690 --> 00:46:19,250 turn it into food for the occupants, 872 00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:22,410 so it's a solution 873 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,580 that, in dense cities, we're all going to have to look to. 874 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,520 (TOOLS WHIRRING) 875 00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:43,830 JOHN FORD: So, you've got air in. 876 00:46:43,850 --> 00:46:45,080 You're gonna sort the air out, 877 00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:46,620 so, as I say, draw it from the base 878 00:46:46,650 --> 00:46:48,330 'cause carbon dioxide will sink to the bottom. 879 00:46:48,350 --> 00:46:51,370 You want a continual flow, you want moving air all the time. 880 00:46:51,390 --> 00:46:53,250 I think that's the first mistake 881 00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:53,830 that a lot of people make 882 00:46:53,850 --> 00:46:56,370 with mushrooms because they think they grow in caves, 883 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,790 they grow in the dark with no air movement 884 00:46:58,810 --> 00:46:59,450 and they do their thing, 885 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,660 but most of the mushrooms don't want to do that. 886 00:47:01,690 --> 00:47:04,370 They don't grow in caves, they grow in forests 887 00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:05,660 and they want to find the light, 888 00:47:05,690 --> 00:47:07,450 they want to find that fresh air, right? 889 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,830 So, that's where they want to go. 890 00:47:08,850 --> 00:47:10,370 So, the most... Yeah, as I say, 891 00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:12,370 the two things we're talking about today 892 00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:13,710 and trying to get right is air flow, 893 00:47:13,730 --> 00:47:15,830 because we need lots of fresh air, 894 00:47:15,850 --> 00:47:16,580 and we need humidity. 895 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,370 Right, and so that's the next step. 896 00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:20,370 - OK, let's talk about humidity, then. 897 00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:21,980 - Absolutely, let's do it. 898 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,290 - Take this off. 899 00:47:27,310 --> 00:47:29,250 JOHN: So, basically, this is going to fill with water 900 00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:31,580 to a certain amount and then underneath here is a big fan, 901 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,250 a big plastic fan, and a really strong motor in there. 902 00:47:34,270 --> 00:47:36,370 It basically creates a sucking action, 903 00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:37,790 it sucks the water up through here. 904 00:47:37,810 --> 00:47:40,710 So, basically, little, tiny, droplets of water 905 00:47:40,730 --> 00:47:41,450 will shoot out from here. 906 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,500 So, the issue with it being on the ground 907 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,620 is will it reach high enough to get humidity to the top? 908 00:47:46,650 --> 00:47:49,660 JO: Is that where the shower could come into play? 909 00:47:49,690 --> 00:47:50,580 - Absolutely. 910 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,520 (MARKER SCRIBBLING) 911 00:48:15,390 --> 00:48:19,020 JOOST: This is going to look so cool, I can't wait. 912 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,410 Hey, John, do you want to put the first mushroom in? 913 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,500 - Love to. 914 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,520 Am I in these guys' way? 915 00:48:29,650 --> 00:48:35,560 White oyster, white oyster going in, the mushroom wall. 916 00:48:36,730 --> 00:48:39,540 - OK, Jo, you need to go and have to shower 917 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,960 to make sure they've got enough steam. 918 00:48:41,980 --> 00:48:42,620 (LAUGHTER) 919 00:48:42,650 --> 00:48:44,500 - Thanks, mate. - Absolute pleasure. 920 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,350 I cannot wait to see this full of mushrooms. 921 00:48:51,690 --> 00:48:54,480 (UPLIFTING MUSIC) 922 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,330 JOOST: Let's see how long it takes for this one to go in. 923 00:49:14,350 --> 00:49:17,370 I can't believe they're already popping out. 924 00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:18,770 - Yeah. 925 00:49:24,020 --> 00:49:28,080 JEREMY: The whole goal, right, is that you've built a house 926 00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:30,000 that is essentially food-positive, 927 00:49:30,020 --> 00:49:31,540 that it's enough for Matt and Jo 928 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,870 to live here, to get enough water, to have enough energy, 929 00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:40,370 to have enough food here, and also they like entertaining 930 00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:41,620 so they're going to have friends over, 931 00:49:41,650 --> 00:49:43,710 so it's actually going to be more than enough 932 00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:44,750 food for them to be able to... 933 00:49:44,770 --> 00:49:45,540 - That's my goal. - Yeah. 934 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,370 So, do you think that it's going to work, like, you know? 935 00:49:49,390 --> 00:49:51,080 - Yeah. - Yeah. I think... 936 00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:53,080 I wouldn't be doing it if... 937 00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:54,620 I don't know how well... 938 00:49:54,650 --> 00:49:56,330 Like, I'm not saying that this... 939 00:49:56,350 --> 00:49:59,620 everything we do here is the way that it needs to be done, 940 00:49:59,650 --> 00:50:02,370 I just want people to get inspired and go, 941 00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:03,370 "He's doing it like that. 942 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,370 "Well, what about if we do it like that?" 943 00:50:05,390 --> 00:50:06,370 I just want it to be a catalyst. 944 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,370 JEREMY: I've never seen a house do what this house does. 945 00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:16,600 This is... this is something that's come from pure creation. 946 00:50:16,810 --> 00:50:20,330 This has been the evolution of 20 years of thinking 947 00:50:20,350 --> 00:50:24,960 about the environment, our food systems, our housing systems. 948 00:50:24,980 --> 00:50:29,370 And, you know, he doesn't need people to do every part of it, 949 00:50:29,390 --> 00:50:31,370 they can just take the bits that they want. 950 00:50:31,390 --> 00:50:34,040 But everyone can learn something from what he's done. 951 00:50:34,060 --> 00:50:35,960 And I think that the big thing is that 952 00:50:35,980 --> 00:50:40,500 it's so ambitious and such a simple, clear idea. 953 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,370 "I'm going to make a house 954 00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:45,370 "that grows enough food for the people that live there." 955 00:50:45,390 --> 00:50:47,850 Like, what a simple, beautiful idea. 956 00:50:56,940 --> 00:50:59,450 JOOST: We were kind of ready to go but we couldn't occupy 957 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,390 the building, so for a lot of January it just sat there. 958 00:51:06,940 --> 00:51:09,910 Uh, I probably should've 959 00:51:09,940 --> 00:51:11,370 waited to install the batteries, 960 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,370 because nickel ion batteries need to be used, 961 00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:15,790 otherwise they go to sleep. 962 00:51:15,810 --> 00:51:18,370 And once they go to sleep you've gotta wake them back up 963 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,870 which can take up to six weeks. 964 00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:22,370 So, delay after delay after delay, 965 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,120 and we just struggled to get them connected 966 00:51:25,150 --> 00:51:26,450 and eventually we did get them connected 967 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,580 but they were sitting still for too long and not being used. 968 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,370 They'd gone to sleep and we didn't have enough time 969 00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:36,480 to resurrect the batteries and charge them properly. 970 00:51:38,980 --> 00:51:41,830 I've now installed another Australian-designed battery 971 00:51:41,850 --> 00:51:45,370 which doesn't have as long a life as what nickel ion does 972 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,500 but it's still a brilliant battery that they have actually 973 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,790 put a lot of energy into making sure that they can be recycled. 974 00:51:50,810 --> 00:51:52,120 In hindsight, we should've just 975 00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:54,660 run all of the electrical equipment, the batteries, 976 00:51:54,690 --> 00:51:59,370 all of the tools should've been charging off those batteries 977 00:51:59,390 --> 00:52:00,500 so it's my fault, 978 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:05,400 I got too excited, I should've installed them later. 979 00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:23,910 JO: Welcome to FutureFoodSystem, 980 00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:25,370 this is the entry. 981 00:52:25,390 --> 00:52:26,450 I thought I'd take you on a little tour. 982 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,830 So this is one of two aquaponic systems we have in the house. 983 00:52:30,850 --> 00:52:34,210 Currently, we've got golden barramundi 984 00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:35,620 and regular barramundi. 985 00:52:35,650 --> 00:52:38,560 That's our bedroom, with a grow bed. 986 00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:42,790 We've got plants growing in the top, that's designed by Joost. 987 00:52:42,810 --> 00:52:45,120 They're our solar panels out there 988 00:52:45,150 --> 00:52:48,770 and they wrap around the house like that. 989 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,870 We'll head up to the biggest module, 990 00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:54,660 which is the kitchen and dining room. 991 00:52:54,690 --> 00:52:57,850 There's Pippies, hey, Pippy. 992 00:52:57,980 --> 00:53:00,620 This is our MCG, our cricket farm, 993 00:53:00,650 --> 00:53:06,660 so we use crickets as a source of vitamin K2 and protein. 994 00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:08,450 (DOG GROWLS) 995 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,710 Dog verse crickets. 996 00:53:10,730 --> 00:53:13,710 Then we've got our flow hive, 997 00:53:13,730 --> 00:53:17,710 our beehive, you can just tap the honey, 998 00:53:17,730 --> 00:53:19,870 so this comes up. 999 00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:22,040 And then in here we have our bees, 1000 00:53:22,060 --> 00:53:24,910 so there's not much honey in there at the moment. 1001 00:53:24,940 --> 00:53:28,770 (DOG BARKS AND GROWLS) 1002 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,160 Finally, got the batteries installed 1003 00:53:46,190 --> 00:53:48,410 that were meant to be at Fed Square. 1004 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,910 Pretty excited. 1005 00:53:49,940 --> 00:53:53,660 Just in the last two weeks, they've really already woken up 1006 00:53:53,690 --> 00:53:56,580 again and fully charged, and hopefully 1007 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,790 these will be in our family for 1008 00:53:58,810 --> 00:54:01,580 quite a few generations to come. 1009 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,850 (BLOWS KISS) 1010 00:54:13,650 --> 00:54:16,910 JO: We're not serving any guests but we're still here. 1011 00:54:16,940 --> 00:54:19,540 There's some more bit and bobs from the garden. 1012 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,870 We've harvested over 40kg of pumpkin. 1013 00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:24,540 That's been pretty cool. 1014 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,650 And there's the view from the kitchen window. 1015 00:54:32,690 --> 00:54:35,230 That is a good parsnip. 1016 00:54:37,650 --> 00:54:40,040 Having a garden is really important 1017 00:54:40,060 --> 00:54:42,450 to the way that Matt and I cook 1018 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,580 because we just let the garden guide 1019 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,450 what we're actually cooking, it's not the other way around. 1020 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,790 It's really about coming out here 1021 00:54:49,810 --> 00:54:52,160 and seeing what's growing and what is the best 1022 00:54:52,190 --> 00:54:56,150 and then just picking that and cooking something with it. 1023 00:55:01,270 --> 00:55:04,160 I mean, you might eat snow peas for a week 1024 00:55:04,190 --> 00:55:06,580 but they're probably the best snow peas 1025 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:12,390 you're ever going to eat. And then you learn how to serve snow peas ten different ways. 1026 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,620 And then, the next week, cavolo nero is ready 1027 00:55:15,650 --> 00:55:19,290 and then you cook cavolo nero five different ways. 1028 00:55:19,310 --> 00:55:22,370 So, I feel like we're really pushing ourselves 1029 00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:23,710 with our cooking. 1030 00:55:23,730 --> 00:55:27,390 (EXCITING MUSIC) 1031 00:55:27,850 --> 00:55:31,080 MATT: We'll document all our recipes as we go 1032 00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:32,810 and photograph as we go. 1033 00:55:32,980 --> 00:55:35,870 JOOST: Matt and I want to know if anyone's got any questions. 1034 00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:39,580 - Ask us, food, building, materials, whatever. 1035 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,500 There's no hiding any of the ideas here 1036 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,290 with the building, with the food, it's gotta be out there 1037 00:55:45,310 --> 00:55:47,080 and that's how you can inspire 1038 00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:48,830 people to do this stuff, really. 1039 00:55:48,850 --> 00:55:52,790 JOOST: So, we used 400 grams of tiger nuts 1040 00:55:52,810 --> 00:55:55,210 and got a litre of milk. 1041 00:55:55,230 --> 00:55:56,580 (LAUGHTER) 1042 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,120 Got enough for me? Come on, mate. 1043 00:55:59,150 --> 00:56:00,390 - Sure. 1044 00:56:05,020 --> 00:56:08,940 JO: Be interesting... Oh, yeah. 1045 00:56:09,390 --> 00:56:16,310 Isn't that mental? Tiger nuts! It's so cool! 1046 00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:23,350 So, that's two blades - one, two, three, four, five, six. 1047 00:56:27,350 --> 00:56:28,390 Seven. 1048 00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:41,120 Mm! Tiger nut milk and we're gonna milk it. 1049 00:56:41,150 --> 00:56:43,830 JOOST: Jo, what are you making? 1050 00:56:43,850 --> 00:56:45,620 - Tiger nut ice-cream. 1051 00:56:45,650 --> 00:56:49,790 It's really starchy and really sweet, 1052 00:56:49,810 --> 00:56:52,980 and then this nut meal. 1053 00:56:53,390 --> 00:56:57,290 Use it for stuffing or put it in the tiger nut cake 1054 00:56:57,310 --> 00:56:58,580 as a bit of moisture. 1055 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,160 And then the chickens love it. 1056 00:57:01,190 --> 00:57:06,370 I've never used tiger nuts before until this house. 1057 00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:08,330 But they have been a real lifesaver 1058 00:57:08,350 --> 00:57:10,370 when you have to have something to produce sweetness, 1059 00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:12,330 you know, we're not growing any wheat, 1060 00:57:12,350 --> 00:57:15,370 so to use it as flour is awesome, as well. 1061 00:57:15,390 --> 00:57:18,790 And I like that challenge, the challenge 1062 00:57:18,810 --> 00:57:20,210 has kind of introduced me to 1063 00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:21,330 something that I never imagined. 1064 00:57:21,350 --> 00:57:25,870 And then to be making things that are nut free, dairy free, 1065 00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:31,810 gluten free, sugar free, all from this magical little tuber. 1066 00:57:35,810 --> 00:57:38,390 And that is the crazy tiger nut. 1067 00:57:39,390 --> 00:57:41,210 Like, I feel like every country 1068 00:57:41,230 --> 00:57:44,370 must have their version of something like this. 1069 00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:48,390 For Australia, I think it's bunya nuts. 1070 00:57:51,350 --> 00:57:53,060 So silky. 1071 00:57:55,060 --> 00:57:56,390 Liquid gold. 1072 00:57:57,730 --> 00:57:59,250 Mm! 1073 00:57:59,270 --> 00:58:01,330 Magma, yum. 1074 00:58:01,350 --> 00:58:03,230 I love cooking. 1075 00:58:03,350 --> 00:58:05,900 I love everything about it. 1076 00:58:09,390 --> 00:58:13,750 - Look, there's ice-cream. - Wait, is that ice cream? 1077 00:58:13,770 --> 00:58:15,750 - Yeah. - Oh! I thought... 1078 00:58:15,770 --> 00:58:17,000 - Look at the bowl, 1079 00:58:17,020 --> 00:58:20,370 it's frozen. Does that feel cold? 1080 00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:21,850 - Oh! 1081 00:58:24,190 --> 00:58:25,390 JO: Ice-cream. 1082 00:58:28,980 --> 00:58:33,080 You know what blows my mind? It's three ingredients. 1083 00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:34,940 That's all it is. 1084 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,390 Double scoop. 1085 00:58:50,270 --> 00:58:55,020 JOOST: I was hoping to see some babies in there today. 1086 00:58:58,390 --> 00:59:00,370 Jeez, look how much darker they are. 1087 00:59:00,390 --> 00:59:01,290 JO: Oh, wow! 1088 00:59:01,310 --> 00:59:03,330 - They've got to be close to hatching. 1089 00:59:03,350 --> 00:59:06,040 - Yeah. Wow. 1090 00:59:06,060 --> 00:59:07,160 - That's so cool. 1091 00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:09,390 (PLAYFUL MUSIC) 1092 00:59:11,060 --> 00:59:13,390 JO: That's my finger for scale. 1093 00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:17,540 JOOST: We thought that this project would be successful 1094 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:18,370 through social media 1095 00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:22,370 but we never expected it to be as successful. 1096 00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:23,540 So, we've got people all over 1097 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,370 the world following the project. 1098 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,370 MAN: If you told people 1099 00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:30,370 that mealworms eat polystyrene, they wouldn't believe it. 1100 00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:34,080 JO: People don't believe it. Oh, it's just incredible. 1101 00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:36,910 So much polystyrene goes into restaurants. 1102 00:59:36,940 --> 00:59:41,370 JOOST: Jo posted a video, it had 40,000 people saw it, 1103 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,040 on mealworms. 1104 00:59:43,060 --> 00:59:45,500 JO: Wow! - And I think that that's what shocked Federation Square, 1105 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:52,370 as well, the reach that we have had globally is phenomenal. 1106 00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:54,370 It's a little bit like a butterfly? 1107 00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:54,960 - Yeah. 1108 00:59:54,980 --> 00:59:57,160 So then do they just fly out of there when they're...? 1109 00:59:57,190 --> 01:00:00,160 - I don't know, we haven't worked that bit out yet. 1110 01:00:00,190 --> 01:00:01,390 (LAUGHTER) 1111 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:03,870 Possums or the birds? 1112 01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:07,330 No, I think it's possums that have actually beaten us to it. 1113 01:00:07,350 --> 01:00:08,290 MATT: Had a little nibble? 1114 01:00:08,310 --> 01:00:11,830 JO: We are doing a dish at the moment which is a cake, 1115 01:00:11,850 --> 01:00:13,250 that we're layering with apples 1116 01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:15,450 and its served with a tiger nut ice-cream. 1117 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,370 I did a video of how to make those cakes 1118 01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:19,910 and surprisingly a lot of people 1119 01:00:19,940 --> 01:00:23,910 have sourced tiger nuts on their own and have made them. 1120 01:00:23,940 --> 01:00:26,910 And, I mean, that dish only has four ingredients 1121 01:00:26,940 --> 01:00:29,410 and all of the ingredients are coming from the house - 1122 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,210 eggs, honey, tiger nuts, apples. 1123 01:00:33,230 --> 01:00:35,330 It's kind of a no-brainer 1124 01:00:35,350 --> 01:00:36,370 that things could be that 1125 01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:38,580 simple but you're not missing out. 1126 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,060 Yeah. 1127 01:00:42,020 --> 01:00:42,910 MATT: This is so unique, 1128 01:00:42,940 --> 01:00:46,040 and it's already becoming the catalyst for change. 1129 01:00:46,060 --> 01:00:49,040 WOMAN: That's pumpkins, we've got zucchinis, 1130 01:00:49,060 --> 01:00:53,370 pumpkins, tomatoes in that bed, in the middle. 1131 01:00:53,390 --> 01:00:56,330 We have some tall, skinny tomatoes. 1132 01:00:56,350 --> 01:00:57,580 MATT: The way people are looking 1133 01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,370 at their homes, the way they eat 1134 01:00:59,390 --> 01:01:01,080 food, how they prepare food, 1135 01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:03,410 the waste that is generated by food. 1136 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,000 WOMAN: I have gone zero waste at home 1137 01:01:06,020 --> 01:01:09,270 by doing a few simple things. 1138 01:01:11,730 --> 01:01:15,160 Everything gets put into a Bokashi bin 1139 01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:16,500 or into the worm farm. 1140 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,160 MATT: Nothing's too small, I think, be it 1141 01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:21,540 growing some parsley on their balconies, 1142 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,330 but the upside of it is it's always more delicious, 1143 01:01:24,350 --> 01:01:28,370 so, you know, we're proving this is possible. 1144 01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:29,370 MAN: All the scraps and that 1145 01:01:29,390 --> 01:01:30,660 went straight in the top of that. 1146 01:01:30,690 --> 01:01:33,000 MATT: If people want to make changes at home, 1147 01:01:33,020 --> 01:01:34,910 just little things, nothing is too small, 1148 01:01:34,940 --> 01:01:36,370 and, once you start to do one or two things, 1149 01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:39,330 it just becomes infectious and you just do the next thing 1150 01:01:39,350 --> 01:01:41,250 and, you know, in a short matter of time, 1151 01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:42,540 you can actually be making a big difference. 1152 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,370 And, with some small changes, we didn't produce any waste. 1153 01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:49,370 Imagine a world without waste. 1154 01:01:49,390 --> 01:01:53,100 (GENTLE MUSIC) 1155 01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:06,370 (BIRD CALLS) 1156 01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:10,520 (INSECTS BUZZ) 1157 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,000 JOOST: I'm walking up there, up the stairs 1158 01:02:23,020 --> 01:02:23,580 and I'm looking in the sky 1159 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:28,450 and I just see these really, really big flies, 1160 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,400 like, they're huge. 1161 01:02:31,770 --> 01:02:34,450 Then I ran back up the stairs and the whole solar panel 1162 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,480 was covered with a blanket of dead bees. 1163 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,480 There's no bees in there, what the hell? 1164 01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:48,250 What it was is the bees were dragging dead bees 1165 01:02:48,270 --> 01:02:51,390 out of the hive and dropping them. 1166 01:02:51,810 --> 01:02:55,390 MATT: It's like a massacre JOOST: I know. 1167 01:02:57,390 --> 01:02:58,660 We worked out somebody was 1168 01:02:58,690 --> 01:03:01,370 using a chemical to get rid of a pest. 1169 01:03:01,390 --> 01:03:04,370 The bees had obviously... were attracted to it, 1170 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,250 had taken it back to the hive. 1171 01:03:06,270 --> 01:03:08,620 (SOMBRE MUSIC) 1172 01:03:08,650 --> 01:03:11,400 (BEES BUZZING) 1173 01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:15,620 Luckily, the bees were smart enough to work out, 1174 01:03:15,650 --> 01:03:16,790 don't go back to that spot, 1175 01:03:16,810 --> 01:03:21,370 and within a week the hive was back to full strength. 1176 01:03:21,390 --> 01:03:23,580 We couldn't believe how resilient. 1177 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:24,370 Oh, I was shocked, 1178 01:03:24,390 --> 01:03:27,350 I really thought that I'd lost that hive. 1179 01:03:36,650 --> 01:03:40,450 JOOST: Juicy, juicy, juiciest nashis. 1180 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,540 - Sorry, what? - It's been a big day. 1181 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,390 - It's been a big six months. 1182 01:03:52,190 --> 01:03:54,330 JO: What are you doing? 1183 01:03:54,350 --> 01:03:56,390 (PLAYFUL MUSIC) 1184 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,160 (JO LAUGHS WICKEDLY) 1185 01:04:01,190 --> 01:04:03,080 I'll get ya, I'll get ya. 1186 01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:05,370 JO: What are you guys doing here? 1187 01:04:05,390 --> 01:04:07,810 (LAUGHTER) 1188 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,910 Stunning, right? FutureFoodSystem. 1189 01:04:11,940 --> 01:04:14,710 - You guys can do the mushrooms, 1190 01:04:14,730 --> 01:04:18,520 I'm going to do the barramundi. 1191 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,810 (SHOCKED SQUEAL) 1192 01:04:32,770 --> 01:04:34,370 JOOST: You going to go fishing, Matt? 1193 01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:37,370 - Oh, I don't know if I'm going to be able to get one. 1194 01:04:37,390 --> 01:04:40,230 - That's not the attitude, mate. 1195 01:04:40,350 --> 01:04:43,370 - It's going to be really hard to get one, Joost. 1196 01:04:43,390 --> 01:04:45,390 The water's so high. 1197 01:04:46,390 --> 01:04:49,250 JO: Out of everything in this house, 1198 01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:52,290 I think the rainbow trout are my favourite. 1199 01:04:52,310 --> 01:04:52,960 They were the yabbies, 1200 01:04:52,980 --> 01:04:57,160 but we've been growing these fingerlings for months now, 1201 01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:59,540 they were tiny, and now they're at full size 1202 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,370 and ready to harvest and we actually have to harvest 1203 01:05:02,390 --> 01:05:04,370 before it gets too hot. 1204 01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:06,560 Sorry, fishy! 1205 01:05:07,980 --> 01:05:10,370 It's actually really hard to catch them... 1206 01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:12,370 Ooh! ..using a net. 1207 01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:13,250 You'd think in a small container 1208 01:05:13,270 --> 01:05:18,390 you could just reach in and grab 'em but they're so tricky. 1209 01:05:18,940 --> 01:05:22,980 - Oh! Oh, shit, sorry. - No, that's alright. 1210 01:05:25,060 --> 01:05:27,330 It's hard, we've been living with them 1211 01:05:27,350 --> 01:05:28,370 and we're going to have to kill 'em, 1212 01:05:28,390 --> 01:05:32,000 which, yeah, I know is part of being a chef and eating food 1213 01:05:32,020 --> 01:05:35,060 but it doesn't make it any easier. 1214 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,710 MATT: Do you want me to, like, poke something one way, 1215 01:05:37,730 --> 01:05:39,620 just to get 'em to go towards you? 1216 01:05:39,650 --> 01:05:40,370 - Yeah. 1217 01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:41,410 - Maybe I could use the Go-Pro. 1218 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,580 If we poke them under there, they can swim out? 1219 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,600 - Yeah, we can do that. 1220 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,850 Oh, it's really murky. 1221 01:05:58,730 --> 01:06:00,980 JO: They're so quick. 1222 01:06:03,390 --> 01:06:06,390 (MATT SIGHS) 1223 01:06:07,350 --> 01:06:09,020 JO: Did it go in? 1224 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,980 - Oi, beauty! - There you go. 1225 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,390 JO: Oh, it's slippery. 1226 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,350 MATT: It's got a lot of fat in it, it's really healthy. 1227 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,370 JO: We always have the connection with the food 1228 01:06:47,390 --> 01:06:50,410 of where it comes from and that you have to kill something 1229 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,810 if you're going to eat meat. 1230 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,830 And when it's in your house and they're really beautiful 1231 01:06:58,850 --> 01:07:01,540 and you feed them every day or they're there, 1232 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,390 you have to use all of it because you're killing it. 1233 01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:11,660 Matt: That, that and that, that'll be roasted for a sauce. 1234 01:07:11,690 --> 01:07:14,830 The guts we save up till we've got enough 1235 01:07:14,850 --> 01:07:15,660 to make a batch of fish sauce, 1236 01:07:15,690 --> 01:07:18,370 and then, the fillets, they could be roasted or pan seared 1237 01:07:18,390 --> 01:07:21,060 or baked in the oven, however you like. 1238 01:07:21,390 --> 01:07:25,830 JO: To have this fish and have to kill it, gut it, scale it 1239 01:07:25,850 --> 01:07:26,370 and then prepare 1240 01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:30,370 and then feed it to people and I hope that they realise that, 1241 01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:31,370 you know, you actually go 1242 01:07:31,390 --> 01:07:32,580 through probably a bit of trauma 1243 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:33,370 when you kill something. 1244 01:07:33,390 --> 01:07:35,450 - I don't know I don't have that connection so much, 1245 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,370 I'm more like it wouldn't be here 1246 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,370 without us growing it to eat, 1247 01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:42,370 so, I don't know, I think it makes me much more respectful. 1248 01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:43,710 For sure, like, you have to make sure 1249 01:07:43,730 --> 01:07:45,830 everything is being utilised, you definitely wouldn't 1250 01:07:45,850 --> 01:07:48,620 waste anything, so I think that's a really big motivator 1251 01:07:48,650 --> 01:07:53,370 but for me I don't have an issue with that side of things. 1252 01:07:53,390 --> 01:07:54,600 - Far out. 1253 01:07:56,730 --> 01:07:59,980 It was just alive six minutes ago. 1254 01:08:00,190 --> 01:08:00,790 - Now it's in pieces. 1255 01:08:00,810 --> 01:08:04,080 JO: Because we've grown the fish, you see how much effort 1256 01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:07,000 goes into every part of it, feeding them every day 1257 01:08:07,020 --> 01:08:08,910 and making sure the water's clean. 1258 01:08:08,940 --> 01:08:12,080 It's got, like, really nice fat around its stomach. 1259 01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:13,370 - It's really healthy. 1260 01:08:13,390 --> 01:08:15,500 - Then, when we go to use it, 1261 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,370 really give justice to the whole 1262 01:08:17,390 --> 01:08:19,850 animal and not waste anything. 1263 01:08:21,390 --> 01:08:22,370 Like the swim bladder, 1264 01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:26,620 so we can clean it up, dry it and then deep fry it 1265 01:08:26,650 --> 01:08:27,500 and get a cracker. 1266 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:28,580 And then same with the eyes, 1267 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,540 you can make crackers out of those, 1268 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,690 as well, the skin, as well. 1269 01:08:33,850 --> 01:08:36,910 And then the bones will go into compost, 1270 01:08:36,940 --> 01:08:38,210 which then goes back into the soil 1271 01:08:38,230 --> 01:08:41,900 so it's just a complete closed loop. 1272 01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:44,830 Things like organic waste and water 1273 01:08:44,850 --> 01:08:47,370 and cardboard and all these things 1274 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:48,450 actually get used on site. 1275 01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:53,210 So, this system, this building, uses all those materials 1276 01:08:53,230 --> 01:08:54,370 as a valuable resource 1277 01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:56,790 and recombines it back into the building. 1278 01:08:56,810 --> 01:08:58,540 So, cardboard gets ground up 1279 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,120 and turned into food for mycelium, 1280 01:09:00,150 --> 01:09:02,370 then we harvest the mushrooms and then 1281 01:09:02,390 --> 01:09:04,580 that compost that's generated by the mushrooms 1282 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,500 then goes back into the gardens, and things like 1283 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,960 organic waste goes into a biodigester, 1284 01:09:09,980 --> 01:09:11,520 like a big stomach. 1285 01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:14,960 So, we inoculate this tank with cow manure. 1286 01:09:14,980 --> 01:09:18,540 JO: I thought you were going to put your hand in there. 1287 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:19,040 Oh! 1288 01:09:19,060 --> 01:09:21,910 JOOST: Hang on, I just washed this shirt. 1289 01:09:21,940 --> 01:09:24,310 Put your flowers in there. 1290 01:09:26,770 --> 01:09:28,060 Done. 1291 01:09:28,650 --> 01:09:31,870 JO: And then that just goes into the base? 1292 01:09:31,900 --> 01:09:34,040 JOOST: Yeah, the bacteria from the cow's stomach 1293 01:09:34,060 --> 01:09:37,160 will break down all of our organic waste 1294 01:09:37,190 --> 01:09:41,770 and turn it into gas and amazing fertiliser. 1295 01:09:45,650 --> 01:09:49,230 (MARKER SCRIBBLING) 1296 01:10:06,810 --> 01:10:08,250 MATT: We're still kind of measuring 1297 01:10:08,270 --> 01:10:09,330 how much we get out of it but, um, 1298 01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:10,830 you know, we don't have that much waste 1299 01:10:10,850 --> 01:10:13,750 but, when it breaks down and when the gas is created, 1300 01:10:13,770 --> 01:10:14,500 it's actually quite a lot. 1301 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,210 So, there's I think maybe four hours a day, at least, 1302 01:10:17,230 --> 01:10:19,270 of cooking gas coming from this. 1303 01:10:22,770 --> 01:10:26,000 So, just add a little bit, poke it in, add another little bit. 1304 01:10:26,020 --> 01:10:27,500 JEREMY: I was struggling with 1305 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,410 the aesthetic of the biodigester 1306 01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:30,290 to be totally honest, 1307 01:10:30,310 --> 01:10:32,410 how do I get clients to engage with human 1308 01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:37,450 waste as a resource, as well as their food waste as a resource? 1309 01:10:37,480 --> 01:10:41,960 I think that sort of technology in an urban environment 1310 01:10:41,980 --> 01:10:48,080 should be handled at a civic scale, at a grid scale, 1311 01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:51,910 but I think it's incredible and I think it's great 1312 01:10:51,940 --> 01:10:54,100 in remote locations. 1313 01:10:55,150 --> 01:10:58,600 (TRAMS TRUNDLE) 1314 01:11:08,270 --> 01:11:11,480 (SERENE MUSIC) 1315 01:11:30,730 --> 01:11:32,120 So, there's been lots of action here 1316 01:11:32,150 --> 01:11:34,660 but no-one, really, in the house to enjoy it, 1317 01:11:34,690 --> 01:11:37,250 so it's just been us, so it's been very quiet for the last six, 1318 01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:40,580 what is it now, three months almost, longer? 1319 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,270 - Yeah, three months. 1320 01:11:42,650 --> 01:11:44,040 Yeah, so we're pretty excited to 1321 01:11:44,060 --> 01:11:45,250 get some people into the house. 1322 01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:48,730 And the garden's out of control so it's perfect. 1323 01:11:50,770 --> 01:11:53,310 Dumplings and fish are both downstairs, 1324 01:11:53,770 --> 01:11:56,520 so we need to check them. 1325 01:11:58,310 --> 01:12:02,000 JO: It's been funny because we've only ever really been 1326 01:12:02,020 --> 01:12:06,080 in the kitchen and now doing all front-of-house stuff, 1327 01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:08,540 getting all the plates ready and 1328 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,770 polishing cutlery and glasses. 1329 01:12:13,810 --> 01:12:16,370 This is the beauty about having solar panels on the ground. 1330 01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:19,660 JOOST: If you, at the start of this project said to someone, 1331 01:12:19,690 --> 01:12:22,120 "Look, I think we can grow food where we live," 1332 01:12:22,150 --> 01:12:23,500 everyone would assume it's a salad. 1333 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,000 "Do I eat a salad for breakfast, lunch and dinner?" 1334 01:12:27,020 --> 01:12:28,000 And what we've proven is 1335 01:12:28,020 --> 01:12:31,830 the food that we've generated over the last six months, 1336 01:12:31,850 --> 01:12:33,580 the diversity and difference 1337 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,390 and it's all delicious, as well. 1338 01:12:39,650 --> 01:12:42,370 LOU: The crickets will be out soon, we'll fry some up. 1339 01:12:42,390 --> 01:12:44,120 But we're going to season the crickets 1340 01:12:44,150 --> 01:12:45,580 with the cricket salt, as well. 1341 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,370 - Imagine it like a dukkah. 1342 01:12:47,390 --> 01:12:48,000 - Yeah, pretty much. 1343 01:12:48,020 --> 01:12:51,370 - So, you would put nuts and different things in a dukkah, 1344 01:12:51,390 --> 01:12:55,330 but we're doing different seeds and different crickets. 1345 01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:57,390 (BOTH LAUGH) 1346 01:13:00,390 --> 01:13:04,310 Bit nervous, we haven't cooked for anyone in so long. 1347 01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:07,290 LOU: Kind of looks like a garlic salt, 1348 01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:10,390 about a quarter roast cricket. 1349 01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:21,370 JO: Smells a bit like ginger beer to me. 1350 01:13:21,390 --> 01:13:24,770 Can you smell it? Smell-evision. 1351 01:13:26,810 --> 01:13:29,350 LOU: Has a pretty nice pop. 1352 01:13:38,270 --> 01:13:40,120 JO: It's like having people over for dinner, 1353 01:13:40,150 --> 01:13:43,660 so it's not, like, a typical dining experience. 1354 01:13:43,690 --> 01:13:46,750 So, it's just... Like you would have a dinner party at home, 1355 01:13:46,770 --> 01:13:48,250 it's just having people over for dinner. 1356 01:13:48,270 --> 01:13:51,250 The only difference is we just don't know who's coming. 1357 01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:53,390 (JO CHUCKLES) 1358 01:13:55,850 --> 01:13:57,100 Hello. 1359 01:13:57,690 --> 01:13:59,290 - Hi. - Welcome. 1360 01:13:59,310 --> 01:14:01,330 - Hello! - G'day. 1361 01:14:01,350 --> 01:14:02,960 - I'm Jo. - G'day, Jo. 1362 01:14:02,980 --> 01:14:04,350 Come on in. 1363 01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:11,120 Yeah. Cheers. 1364 01:14:11,150 --> 01:14:12,790 - It smells so... 1365 01:14:12,810 --> 01:14:17,370 Cheers. And feel free to wander up. 1366 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,330 So, the water from the fish 1367 01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:21,210 tanks cycles across the growbeds 1368 01:14:21,230 --> 01:14:25,390 and then we've got sweet potatoes and snow peas. 1369 01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:28,750 - Ah, hello. - How are you? 1370 01:14:28,770 --> 01:14:31,410 Welcome. Hello. 1371 01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:34,390 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1372 01:14:36,770 --> 01:14:39,660 MATT: Alrighty, everyone, welcome to lunch. 1373 01:14:39,690 --> 01:14:41,370 So, there's some different shoots, 1374 01:14:41,390 --> 01:14:42,160 some different veggies. 1375 01:14:42,190 --> 01:14:44,040 Everything you can see is completely edible, 1376 01:14:44,060 --> 01:14:46,370 the flowers and even the crickets on top. 1377 01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:47,830 So there's some fried crickets in there. 1378 01:14:47,850 --> 01:14:50,250 It's very casual, it's like dinner at home, right? 1379 01:14:50,270 --> 01:14:51,870 And the idea is to just grab some leaves, 1380 01:14:51,900 --> 01:14:54,290 put it through the dip and just eat it with your hands. 1381 01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:56,660 - Lovely. - Cool, thank you. 1382 01:14:56,690 --> 01:14:57,750 - Try the cricket. 1383 01:14:57,770 --> 01:14:58,830 (CHUCKLES) Yeah. 1384 01:14:58,850 --> 01:15:01,390 - Beautiful. - How's your cricket? 1385 01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:10,210 The next little bite we have 1386 01:15:10,230 --> 01:15:13,120 is a cannoli that's filled with smoked and cured trout, 1387 01:15:13,150 --> 01:15:14,910 rainbow trout that is growing up here. 1388 01:15:14,940 --> 01:15:18,370 It's encased in a sorghum tostada, 1389 01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:19,250 so similar to making a corn 1390 01:15:19,270 --> 01:15:20,210 chip but we made it with sorghum, 1391 01:15:20,230 --> 01:15:22,830 which is a grain that we've grown here. 1392 01:15:22,850 --> 01:15:25,290 (CHATTER AND LAUGHTER) 1393 01:15:25,310 --> 01:15:27,480 - Bon appetit. - Thank you. 1394 01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:37,060 (TRANQUIL MUSIC) 1395 01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:02,750 JO: These are cured, then smoked egg yolks. 1396 01:16:02,770 --> 01:16:06,000 And then we dry them and then we grate them. 1397 01:16:06,020 --> 01:16:08,210 MATT: Sorry to interrupt again, guys. 1398 01:16:08,230 --> 01:16:09,540 We have a kind of pasta that's not pasta. 1399 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,830 It's made from celeriac we've just really lightly blanched. 1400 01:16:12,850 --> 01:16:18,120 It's like a gluten-free, dairy-free carbonara, kind of. 1401 01:16:18,150 --> 01:16:19,370 Mm! 1402 01:16:19,390 --> 01:16:22,000 - Looks delish! Thank you. 1403 01:16:22,020 --> 01:16:25,390 (LAUGHTER) 1404 01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:28,120 It's fun to be cooking again and running around, 1405 01:16:28,150 --> 01:16:32,980 and feel like we have a bit of a meaning. 1406 01:16:46,980 --> 01:16:49,830 I think the guests have got into it, they ate the crickets 1407 01:16:49,850 --> 01:16:53,120 and had some things that are familiar and not familiar 1408 01:16:53,150 --> 01:16:53,870 and mixed it up. 1409 01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:56,040 JO: Yeah, not being able to cook for people 1410 01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:58,370 has been hard and not having people 1411 01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:59,290 being able to go out and dine, 1412 01:16:59,310 --> 01:17:02,330 so I think there's a really nice feeling in the air 1413 01:17:02,350 --> 01:17:06,730 that finally we can be around each other. 1414 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:09,410 Yeah, really nice. 1415 01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:13,660 Kind of worried that we couldn't remember how to cook, 1416 01:17:13,690 --> 01:17:16,270 but clearly that's not a thing. 1417 01:17:21,730 --> 01:17:25,440 (MARKER SCRIBBLING) 1418 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,150 (EXCITED CHATTER) 1419 01:18:13,650 --> 01:18:18,440 JOOST: That's called recycling. Bring your own bucket. 1420 01:18:19,390 --> 01:18:20,580 MATT: Something like this is so special, 1421 01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,040 to put it into a public space, to share it with people 1422 01:18:24,060 --> 01:18:24,580 is really important. 1423 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,000 JOOST: So, there's huge potential for us to turn 1424 01:18:27,020 --> 01:18:30,370 our urban areas into the most biodiverse places on earth, 1425 01:18:30,390 --> 01:18:31,160 which they already are, 1426 01:18:31,190 --> 01:18:34,390 but what about if we actually grow food? 1427 01:18:37,310 --> 01:18:40,500 Hi! It's Yvie Jones from Studio 10. 1428 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,600 JO: Straight lines, Costa. 1429 01:18:44,150 --> 01:18:46,080 I would blanch them, definitely, 1430 01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:48,370 and I would not have them squeaky. 1431 01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:49,730 - OK. 1432 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,000 A lot of our colleagues are saying 1433 01:18:58,020 --> 01:19:01,370 it must be so nice to only cook for 14 people a night 1434 01:19:01,390 --> 01:19:01,750 and it is, 1435 01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:04,210 but we're also picking the vegetables, 1436 01:19:04,230 --> 01:19:05,370 trying to preserve them, 1437 01:19:05,390 --> 01:19:08,750 managing all of the fermentations, the sauces, 1438 01:19:08,770 --> 01:19:10,370 the pastes, all of that flavour, 1439 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:11,370 you know, important stuff. 1440 01:19:11,390 --> 01:19:15,230 Wow. It smells amazing. There's so much flavour in there. 1441 01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:16,370 JO: It's a multi-course dinner, 1442 01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:20,250 so we're cooking, serving, washing the dishes. 1443 01:19:20,270 --> 01:19:23,250 Usually by 10:30, we've finished cooking food. 1444 01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:26,080 - And then clean up again. - And then we clean up. 1445 01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:27,450 Vacuum, mop, finish the dishes 1446 01:19:27,480 --> 01:19:30,790 and then we're usually in bed by 1, 1447 01:19:30,810 --> 01:19:34,230 1:30, and then do it again. 1448 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,250 MATT: But, you know, Joost reminds me all the time, 1449 01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:42,210 like, there's nothing like this, 1450 01:19:42,230 --> 01:19:46,810 it's never been done and, if we don't do it, no-one will. 1451 01:19:52,270 --> 01:19:55,580 JO: It's very fulfilling, being here. 1452 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:56,660 Beans galore. 1453 01:19:56,690 --> 01:20:01,500 Being a part of a system that you know is reliant on you, 1454 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,620 and you're giving back to it and it gives to you, 1455 01:20:04,650 --> 01:20:08,210 and being able to cook and be a part of that, as well, 1456 01:20:08,230 --> 01:20:09,410 so you kind of close the loop 1457 01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:11,370 by showing that thing respect, as well, 1458 01:20:11,390 --> 01:20:14,600 so it's a very fulfilling project. 1459 01:20:17,650 --> 01:20:21,660 JOOST: I view the building like a dandelion. 1460 01:20:21,690 --> 01:20:23,080 We've planted a dandelion 1461 01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:26,390 and, when it flowers, its seeds go everywhere. 1462 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,480 That's how I see it. 1463 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:34,480 (TRANQUIL PIANO MUSIC) 1464 01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:49,450 JOOST: Yeah, so I'm still a little bit in shock, 1465 01:20:49,480 --> 01:20:50,830 but I'm also excited 1466 01:20:50,850 --> 01:20:55,580 because I've just been asked to design a zero-waste supermarket 1467 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,370 that implements many of the ideas 1468 01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,210 that FutureFoodSystem is about. 1469 01:21:00,230 --> 01:21:05,480 Where's Sam? This could be catalyst for change in the whole country. 1470 01:21:06,690 --> 01:21:08,660 Tree-free packaging and no 1471 01:21:08,690 --> 01:21:12,390 plastic and reusable containers. 1472 01:21:12,850 --> 01:21:14,370 So it's pretty exciting, 1473 01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:17,710 I can't believe that this has happened. 1474 01:21:17,730 --> 01:21:18,540 I love the idea 1475 01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,770 that a supermarket could be completely zero waste. 1476 01:21:23,390 --> 01:21:25,540 So, the organic waste that we generate 1477 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,290 will get fed into a biodigester, 1478 01:21:27,310 --> 01:21:31,580 and then the biodigester will create heat and energy and gas, 1479 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,660 and from that gas we use that for hot water, 1480 01:21:34,690 --> 01:21:36,330 but, also, we'll have every 1481 01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:38,370 second pane of glass on the roof 1482 01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:39,290 will be a solar panel. 1483 01:21:39,310 --> 01:21:41,910 So, the idea is that it's a productive building, 1484 01:21:41,940 --> 01:21:45,830 but on a massive scale, it's actually like a large version 1485 01:21:45,850 --> 01:21:47,160 of FutureFoodSystem really, 1486 01:21:47,190 --> 01:21:48,750 it's a Greenhouse on a massive scale. 1487 01:21:48,770 --> 01:21:50,830 So, every single element allows for the production 1488 01:21:50,850 --> 01:21:55,520 of food, but also for the utilisation of waste on site. 1489 01:21:56,190 --> 01:21:57,500 And so everything is designed to be 1490 01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,290 a circular system and then, all the packaging, 1491 01:21:59,310 --> 01:22:01,710 so we'll have a washing plant on site, so people can bring 1492 01:22:01,730 --> 01:22:04,500 their packaging back to the supermarket 1493 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,480 and it'll get reused. 1494 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,910 There's no stickers on jars, there's no stickers on fruit, 1495 01:22:09,940 --> 01:22:11,660 there's no stickers on vegetables, 1496 01:22:11,690 --> 01:22:15,560 because they are the enemy of recycling. 1497 01:22:16,900 --> 01:22:17,870 So, the rooftop garden, 1498 01:22:17,900 --> 01:22:19,370 so, as you're walking up the aisles, 1499 01:22:19,390 --> 01:22:22,370 you'll actually look up and see the plants growing 1500 01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:23,000 above the aisle, 1501 01:22:23,020 --> 01:22:24,910 so it'll be a double-storey glasshouse 1502 01:22:24,940 --> 01:22:27,370 which allows you to have productivity above, 1503 01:22:27,390 --> 01:22:29,410 but it also shades the glasshouse underneath, 1504 01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:32,370 so we'll be able to create a really amazing environment 1505 01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:33,960 for people walking in the supermarket, 1506 01:22:33,980 --> 01:22:36,250 it's like a natural air conditioner. 1507 01:22:36,270 --> 01:22:37,830 It'll use a lot less energy than 1508 01:22:37,850 --> 01:22:40,390 a conventional supermarket. 1509 01:22:42,940 --> 01:22:47,600 I'm a big believer in that a vision can be realised. 1510 01:22:47,940 --> 01:22:52,390 I think, if you can think it, you can realise it. 1511 01:22:52,980 --> 01:22:56,520 It's not easy but I think you can do it. 1512 01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:02,500 It's not a compromise to do things sustainably, 1513 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,370 we can do everything that we want 1514 01:23:04,390 --> 01:23:06,940 and have a much better life. 1515 01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:09,500 It doesn't matter how big the dream 1516 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,850 is, you can actually make it real. 1517 01:23:13,390 --> 01:23:16,770 And that's really what Greenhouse is about. 1518 01:23:17,940 --> 01:23:21,730 Captioned by Ai-Media ai-media.tv